New Star Trek Series starring Patrick Stewart
#181
Posted 07 March 2020 - 09:08 AM
#182
Posted 14 March 2020 - 03:31 PM
No spoilers but that scene with Picard talking about Data with another character was so many things. Even thinking about it makes me emotional.
#183
Posted 14 March 2020 - 08:00 PM
It falters here and there, and is definitely a different take stylistically and tonally to TNG, but it's Star Trek. It feels like Star Trek in ways that Discovery simply never has. It's that feeling of connective tissue that used to pervade DS9 and Voyager, these characters inhabit the same universe as we saw in '90s Trek.
It always pissed me off when I'd see Reddit threads like "List of canon references Discovery S01E05" or whatever - it shouldn't be necessary to point out specific references to canon in a Star Trek show - it should just be canon. This feels canon. Just hearing lines like "lay in a course to Deep Space 12" or "I need a secure subspace channel to Starfleet Command", hearing supporting characters talk about former crewmates or describe missions - THIS is the Starfleet I remember, not the frenetic absurd jock squad of Discovery.
#184
Posted 14 March 2020 - 08:19 PM
I've been reading the spoiler threads on trek movie to get a sense of what fans think of it... and from what I can see, a lot of the concern, fear and to right complaints have faded starting with episodes 6 or 7... which suggests that while the plot line may have had a slow start, it sounds like the writers are bringing it together in a mostly coherent way... which if true, is really great.
#185
Posted 15 March 2020 - 09:44 AM
It always pissed me off when I'd see Reddit threads like "List of canon references Discovery S01E05" or whatever - it shouldn't be necessary to point out specific references to canon in a Star Trek show - it should just be canon. This feels canon. Just hearing lines like "lay in a course to Deep Space 12" or "I need a secure subspace channel to Starfleet Command", hearing supporting characters talk about former crewmates or describe missions - THIS is the Starfleet I remember, not the frenetic absurd jock squad of Discovery.
Why does this piss you off? They do the same thing for Picard.
It has nothing to do with trying to force something into canon, it's just to point out references to other series and parts of Trek's canon.If any of the other shows were being made now, you'd likely see the same thing.
#186
Posted 20 March 2020 - 07:00 AM
This made me laugh... and sad at the same time...
#187
Posted 20 March 2020 - 05:49 PM
#188
Posted 21 March 2020 - 08:39 PM
I gave it a pass - it's still silly as hell and only barely a pass - but a pass based on my head canon (and, I think, reasonable conjecture) that
It's still dumb though.
#189
Posted 22 March 2020 - 04:54 PM
And the silliest bit is that its not like there aren't other telepathic aliens in Star Trek... most notably Betazoids... so they could have just passed it off with a bit of techno babble and left Vulcan physiology out of it.
#190
Posted 25 March 2020 - 01:14 AM
#191
Posted 26 March 2020 - 11:50 AM
You know what's dumb?
Mind melds in the first place.
Also, Betazoid mind reading.
All of that is baloney.
The idea that all brains of all species would work and process data in the exact same way bioelectrically to the point where meaning could be universally derived from sensitivity to some kind of field or signals by one species in particular is ridiculous.
Your Mac and PC can only share files because standards were agreed upon, adapters were made. That didn't happen with brains of different alien species. Or different earth species. Or, likely, even individual to individual, at least within certain genetic clusters.
I could buy that Betazoids can share thoughts with each other to some degree, but when they start reading other minds, no. Just no.
Telepathy is pseudo-science crap that doesn't really belong in hard science fiction IMO unless it specifically addresses the above and how it would be possible anyway.
SO, that said, arguing over which kind of telepathy is dumber and whether this person or that person or that synth being able to use this or that method of telepathy ... ... is meaningless.
Star Trek has never even been consistent with itself before about mind melds. They do whatever some writer needed them to do. Don't even get me started on the whole katra thing.
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Anyway...HI! Tonight's the finale! I haven't hated anything too much yet... definitely better than Discovery S1 was.
And also, I hope you are all STAYING HOME! What a month it's been.
#192
Posted 26 March 2020 - 01:30 PM
#193
Posted 27 March 2020 - 08:48 AM
#194
Posted 27 March 2020 - 03:38 PM
#195
Posted 27 March 2020 - 09:37 PM
#196
Posted 28 March 2020 - 05:38 PM
Just finished Picard today. Very much looking forward to the next two seasons. Eager to see what's in store for other former crewmembers.
#197
Posted 05 April 2020 - 11:17 PM
#198
Posted 10 April 2020 - 02:22 AM
So... do you think it captured the futuristic and utopian ideals and Humanist Philosophies of Roddenberry's trek? Or is it just basically the nostalgia of familiar characters?
#199
Posted 10 April 2020 - 12:15 PM
The first scene of the beginning sequence of the show shows a broken pane of glass which indicates something is broken in the Star Trek universe. As the story progresses you learn what is broken and by the end of the season, there has been great progress towards fixing the brokeness. The story shows how the utopian future of Star Trek can be affected by the outside influence of Romulans which is unknown at the time, who set up the synthetic beings as the enemy of humans who in turn outlaw their existence in the federation.I can see a morality play such as TOS and TNG frequently used to tell a story based on current events.In my opinion, it stands up to Roddenberrys ideals pretty well but it's not perfect. The nostalgia of seeing beloved characters was great too.So... do you think it captured the futuristic and utopian ideals and Humanist Philosophies of Roddenberry's trek? Or is it just basically the nostalgia of familiar characters?
#200
Posted 16 April 2020 - 08:13 AM
One of my predications was that even if there was plot holes or weaker writing... Sir Patick's talent and inclusion would have an elevating effect on the show... so just curious if folks that watched it found that to be true?
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