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Daysleeper

Member Since 21 Aug 2011
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In Topic: "New ‘Star Trek’ Series Coming to CBS in 2017"

19 November 2017 - 03:36 AM

One more thing: Has anyone here been told he or she can't be a true Trekkie because he or she likes Discovery?

What I mean is, people like me who don't like the show criticize the show, not its fans.

In Topic: "New ‘Star Trek’ Series Coming to CBS in 2017"

19 November 2017 - 03:15 AM

I don't mind change, as long as the general idea and feel of the original are still there. And I don't have that with Disco. Let's take Star Wars as an example for a second. Episodes 1-3 didn't have the vibe of the original trilogy and are considered weak by a lot of fans. Episode 7 managed to get the vibe back (but was an obvious rehash of episode 4 with some elements of episode 5 sprinkled in). Change is fine, but a sequel/prequel to a beloved franchise shouldn't just take everything and throw it overboard for the sake of change. Disco is more a reboot than a continuation of an established universe, and the elements that made Trek this lovable and interesting franchise (at least for me) are nowhere to be found.

I talked to a friend the other day, asking him whether he's been watching Disco, knowing him to be a Trekkie. And he likes it. He wanted to know why I didn't, and I told him. And he said, "I can understand why you don't like it." and that was it. No argument, no insults, nothing of the sort. I guess he and I just have different things we look for in a Trek show, and obviously we perceive things differently. Another friend of mine really enjoys JJTrek, and he knows it is not my cup of tea. And we still get along and have the occasional Trek marathons.

But once you go online and have a different opinion, you're called close-minded, backwards thinking, not a true friend etc. I don't know if you get off on that or whatever, but I've had enough.

In Topic: "New ‘Star Trek’ Series Coming to CBS in 2017"

18 November 2017 - 06:14 PM

I liked every other series from the start. In the case of Voyager, I'd even go so far and say that I found it better the first time I watched it, noticing more weaknesses during the second and third times. And I was a huge Enterprise fan right from the start. It's my favorite show after TOS.

It's the same with the movies. I like 1-9, but I can't stand Nemesis and the JJTreks, and therefor I don't watch them any more. I gave Nemesis a second chance a few years after I had seen it on the big screen, and I found it just as bad as the first time.

In Topic: "New ‘Star Trek’ Series Coming to CBS in 2017"

18 November 2017 - 09:25 AM

1701D, yes I am a Trekkie. But why should I waste my time watching something I don't like? I gave it a chance, tried to approach this show with an open mind. I watched 7 episodes, discovered that I like none of the characters, that I find the writing ranging from weak to abysmal, that I don't like the look/design/music (the intro is downright terrible). Why should I go on watching it? I don't mind you enjoying it. In the meantime let me enjoy the Star Trek I like and stop insulting people who don't like something you do like. Different opinions shouldn't be a problem for someone who claims to be open minded.

In Topic: "New ‘Star Trek’ Series Coming to CBS in 2017"

13 November 2017 - 04:23 PM

Daysleeper, if your watching the show, I know I'd love to hear any critiques you have of the show... I and most others have issues with it.... I know I don't think it's perfect and I think if you look at the discussions of the actual show, people here have been pretty respectful to each other's opinions.

A certain member has decided to espouse phobias and succumb to their own hate and fear... So sad... So unecessary... Many of us have solved that problem by putting that individual on ignore so we only see their bigoted rhetoric when quoted.

But I do agree this isn't a place for political discussion... Which can be difficult since often such shows have a political undertone to them. I guess if people want to talk politics maybe start a politics topic in the everything else thread?

Gothneo, I've decided not to watch it any longer. I stopped after the time loop episode, which I could barely stand. I don't like the show for many many reasons, but at the moment I don't feel like discussing them. I tried, mostly in several facebook groups, and it became very ugly. As it - unfortunately - has here, too. Not against me, so far, mostly because I haven't been very vocal here, and I can fully understand why sexist and bigoted ideas have no place here (or anywhere else for that matter).  But the tone here has become... rough, unnecessarily rough for a forum about a sci-fi-show that used to spawn the opposite. I haven't been as active here as I used to, but I always kept reading through some of the threads. At the moment, this forum frustrates me, as do those facebook groups. I'm thinking about taking a break from fandom and just enjoy the parts of the franchise I like for myself.