Whirlygig

This will be welcome news to most:

 

http://sciencefictio...-youre-talking/

 

Praise Jebus!

 

 

So this isn't happening any time soon:

 

https://comicbook.co...-not-happening/

 

Color me...not surprised.  And also relieved.

No movies is fine with me.  Remember the good old days, the 90s, where Trek fans were the only ones on the Internet and most people under 20 didn't know what it was except for being something nerds talked about?  WE LIKED IT THAT WAY.  Admit it!  And no, I am not being facetious here.  Not everyone needs Star Trek shoved in their face.  If recent events have taught us anything it's that they just aren't ready for it yet.

Well....Star Wars, in hindsight, easily transitioned to both live action + animation.  However, they did so by making sure their animated series were good enough.  Derpy Kurtz better try for the same.

I hate the JJverse and love to shit on it.

 

However, I am buying these figures, because let's face it, I'm a Trek collector and my DST figure line is complete so far...

 

But why aren't they out yet???

People have to love something before the merchandise flies off the shelves.  Merchandise is our way of grabbing a tangible piece of something we love.  So if they had any brains they would be focused on simply making content we will have no choice but to love.  The rest will come naturally, but likely not overnight.

Well you gotta look at the whole picture.

Hey let's set a show pre-TOS and have it be weird.
Hey let's have a fourth JJ movie.
Hey let's have a Tarantino movie, too...somewhere in there.
Hey let's bring Picard back.
Hey let's get that Rick and Morty guy and make a cartoon.

Next I expect they will pitch a reality show about Trek fans on an island hosted by Neelix, an improv game show called "Who's Command Is It, Anyway?", the home Trek shopping network, variety programming like "America's Got Trekkies", and finally "American Ninja Klingons".

I know I'm weird, so you don't have to tell me, but the one thing in this line that has caught me in its orbit is the promise of a full set of Facts of Life action figures.  Not even joking.

LIFE IS WORTH LIVING AGAIN

I liked it.  I think for whatever reason the critics decided to gang up on it, like they did on John Carter.  They see a "tortured development" and assume "winging it".  In turn they then assume "crap".  And they will armchair philosophize (and yes I'm talking about both the professional critics BSing and the at-home neckbeards BSing) whatever necessary to convince themselves that assumption was right.  Meanwhile they forget that even in productions that weren't "tortured" there is often still a large amount of winging it going on.  But dare not let the world know, or the critics will call your motives into question using every artistic mumbo-jumbery in the book (meanwhile if they think you planned it all out from Day 1 they will use the same mumbo-jumbery to applaud things the creators did by accident).

At the end of the day its a fun, entertaining two hours with some twists and a lot of good Han moments.  For example Han will now always have shot first!  (Non-spoiler)

Could have been a bit better but not deserving of the titanic iceberg crash critics seem to be concertedly trying to shove in its path...

And both divisions are owned by the same company!

 

I may not have worked for a film company, but I have worked for companies.  And I know that as soon as somebody tells somebody else "legal reasons", people start erring on the side of caution and it can usually be easier to proceed that way than to actually go track down those who could tell you the truth about what's legal and what isn't.  So, that is why I may not exactly believe this is actually true.

so to use Marvel toys as some kind of an excuse seems redundant.

 

My thread of discussion here with you so far has been to call out your nonsense claim that Hasbro toys do not compare well to Mattel toys, not to tie any of that in with anything about TRU's situation.

 

If you want to get on with TRU finger-pointing, well, consider that here in the US, even though Star Wars has WAY TOO MANY different active lines (which even an idiot can see...I don't know why nobody at TRU could see it...for crying out loud there was a Hot Wheels and a Titanium line simultaneously for a couple years -- yet another department where Hasbro trumped Mattel, AHEM)....... they still only accounted for about one aisle of your typical TRU store, out of countless (I dunno maybe 50-60?) other aisles...  So unless they were stockpiling Star Wars in the back to a ridiculous degree, which who knows, they might have been, it seems a bit silly to pin it all on Star Wars.

Eaglemoss has it relatively easy. They're sticking to one thing, spaceships, and they're covering all eras. That's a lot harder to do when you've got multiple categories ranging from action figures and banks to electronic ships and role play.

 

True, but they release 24 regular issues, a handful of specials / bonus issues, a shuttlecraft set, and a couple of XLs per year.  Plus replica dedication plaques, and comic book TPB volumes. 

 

Even if they scaled that back to 1 ship, 1 figurine, 1 TPB, 1 plaque, and 1 each of up to 24 other hypothetical product categories per year....they'd still be blazing past DST at warp 9.9...

Lol...it was called mid-century modern because it represented aesthetics that felt modern *during* the mid-20th-century, not because it would be, or appear to be, modern *forever*.  To claim nothing about Star Trek looks 60's is just, well, you've lost me, I can't reason with the unreasonable...  I suppose there was nothing 60's about Adam West Batman, either???

Clothing and hair in Star Wars did originally betray the 70s, and sometimes so did similar mechanical toggle switches (mainly on the Death Star), but that was about it.  The intentional retro, junkyard, timeless look to most Star Wars elements makes you less able to find a sense of time relative to yourself, and that's the point..it's not our future or our past.  Trek on the other hand needs to appear futuristic to its current audience.

As to why it had to be set before TOS...welp, to be honest, why not?  I don't think they've done a good job showing us why this story had to be told in that time period... but, I do think someone *could* theoretically do a good job of that and I wouldn't want that person restricted by ancient aesthetics, either.

Aesthetics DO NOT make the series what it is, and DO NOT make the characters what they are.  Aesthetics do not equal reboot.  They did a fine job updating the Enterprise for the look of this show without changing too much about it.  I have no issues whatsoever with this.  The interior is sure to be another story, if they go so far as to show that, which I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.  But I will have 0 issues with that as well, if they do.

 

One thing I haven't complained about yet, but which felt especially brutal in the final episode as they used her dialogue/voiceover to try and solve every problem and tie up every loose end.  I feel that Burnham's lines usually come across as too preachy and self-assured.  Now and then all our main Trek characters do this, but with her, it's nearly every scene & voiceover.  You can tell me that that is part of her character, but then I will tell you that maybe a character like that shouldn't be the default narrator of the show.  Probably the main character who did this the worst, after Burnham, was Janeway...  We used to parody her by inserting "MY SHIP" and "MY CREW" into every single sentence back in the day...  But I still love Voyager.

Man, the eBay prices on the Probert C are no joke, might wait a while before getting that one. (Not a subscriber).

 

You in the US?  The US eaglemoss shop has them up right now for $25 ($32 w/shipping).  Just ordered mine.

If they wanted me to think that Burnham has spent all this time, including the present, being butt-hurt about Georgiou's death (I think that's what it is supposed to be, moreso than the war)....they should really have invested in some character building flashbacks after that series opener that would prove to me they actually had a meaningful relationship.  But they were more interested in having a human/Klingon hybrid and a mirror universe instead.

 

Also...if they wanted me to think there was a big war going on, they could have made it seem like there is a bit more to war than "magical spore ship solves all problems".  A little line about "we lost 1/3 of the fleet" or whatever, and everybody going sad-face, is a pretty big cop-out.  That's not a story **about** war, that's a story about a magical spore ship that solves all problems, I presume by going back in time of course, or whatever else makes less sense than that.