Same here in Lafayette at Toys R Us. They had a case of the 3 3/4" assortment, but were all sold out of the 6" figures. For the first time in all my years of Star Wars collecting I was left feeling really disenchanted at the sight of new 3 3/4" figures. 6" Darth Maul and Sandtrooper will be mine!
Star Wars: The Black Series
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Posted 28 July 2013 - 04:44 PM
There was that brief moment when I thought that the Square Enix figures from SDCC were From Hasbro's presentation. I'm getting so tired of all the letdowns from Star Trek license holders. When are they going to realize that there are those of us that would buy up everything on 1701's list?
I just think it's to do with brand confidence. There's no confidence in the Star Trek brand and this goes right up the ladder to the executives at Paramount. Whereas you can see the confidence in Marvel and Star Wars and Pixar movies (even if their bad movies). The studio's are 110% committed to those brands and it shows.
With Star Trek, even with the new movies, the confidence isn't there from CBS to for example, allow JJ Abrams to impose his vision on the franchise.
Hasbro's problem is that the studio's don't show their confidence in the brand and ultimately that will be Star Trek's downfall as a competitor to the likes of Star Wars.
I sincerely hope that in the next 5 years something happens that pushes CBS to sell Star Trek to either Bad Robot or Lucasfilm/Disney because I can see a prosperous future for Trek under JJ Abrams Bad Robot, I can't say I'm 100% certain of Star Trek's future under the unimaginative suits at CBS.
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:14 AM
I am a Trek guy myself but my partner is a SW guy, so I have decided I am gonna hop on the band wagon and collect the 6" figures FOR him and make him keep them MIB haha
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:59 AM
I've just got all 4 of the "First Day of Issue" 6 inch figures from the London Toys R Us megastore (apparently on the last day they'll be available before being removed from the store and sent back to Hasbro) and wow these are stunning.
Having a Star Trek line identical to it would be incredible for sure and just how Hasbro have made the release an event in itself just fills me with excitement for this line... Star Trek has definitely got the bum deal with merchandise 
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:43 PM
They have them on amazon for 19.99
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:44 PM
I've just got all 4 of the "First Day of Issue" 6 inch figures from the London Toys R Us megastore (apparently on the last day they'll be available before being removed from the store and sent back to Hasbro) and wow these are stunning.
Having a Star Trek line identical to it would be incredible for sure and just how Hasbro have made the release an event in itself just fills me with excitement for this line... Star Trek has definitely got the bum deal with merchandise
What do you think of Darth Maul? In the pics the face looks off.
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:19 PM
I wonder what type of release Hasbro would follow if they were to release Star Trek. Hasbro is releasing the Star Wars Black Series in a ratio of 3 Original Trilogy/ 1 Prequel Trilogy for the 6" figures. I wonder if they would do the opposite with Star Trek, where JJ-verse got 3 to 1 Prime Universe in each wave? I am still dumbfounded and in a state of disbelief that Hasbro has the license and aren't doing a damn thing with it! Oh the agony!
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What do you think of Darth Maul? In the pics the face looks off.
I'm not a hardcore fan of Star Wars and wouldn't really notice any differences to his on screen counterpart so I may not be the best person to ask but to me it looks spot on, Darth Maul is probably my least favourite, Sandtrooper is incredible.
I wonder what type of release Hasbro would follow if they were to release Star Trek. Hasbro is releasing the Star Wars Black Series in a ratio of 3 Original Trilogy/ 1 Prequel Trilogy for the 6" figures. I wonder if they would do the opposite with Star Trek, where JJ-verse got 3 to 1 Prime Universe in each wave? I am still dumbfounded and in a state of disbelief that Hasbro has the license and aren't doing a damn thing with it! Oh the agony!
I don't think Hasbro have a new to old trilogy ratio. Wave 2 is purely classic trilogy with wave 3 consisting of 2 new trilogy and then 2 classic. I think for Star Trek if we were to get such a line it would be all JJ Abrams to begin with as that has the best chance of selling to casual fans as well as collectors. It's sad that Star Trek isn't being given the same treatment but I'm hardly in disbelief.
Truth is the more I think about it the more I think about how different the fans are of each franchise. Of course there are exceptions to the rule and I am by no mean's saying that done properly a superior Star Trek toy line couldn't work but I have noticed that Star Trek fans are by and large academic people who would probably show little to no real interest in toys. They at best would have a model of the Enterprise on their desk and at worse, Only watch Star Trek as and when it was on TV (since it's on TV all the time).
Star Wars fans tend to be more the creative types, people who love movies in general and have either a substantial collection of Star Wars toys or indeed various toy lines.
Furthermore I think the very nature of Star Wars is more about selling toys than telling very complex story's. Star Trek by its very nature is the opposite, telling intelligent stories rather than selling toys. Star Wars was built around merchandise and It took off.
I do wonder had Star Trek launched with The Wrath of Khan rather than The Motion Picture and had come before Star Wars whether or not things would have been different.
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Posted 30 July 2013 - 08:00 AM
That 3/1 ratio count is from Hasbro in a 2013 Toy Fair interview and from follow up Q&As with Daryll Depriest, the Head Honcho over Hasbro's Star Wars and GI Joe production teams. Some Star Wars fans, like some Star Trek fans, see the Prequel Trilogy as an abomination and collect only Original Trilogy characters. See a comparison here? Lol
So if Hasbro would suddenly start popping out Star Trek figures, I'm almost certain they would follow the model of The Star Wars Black Series. Hasbro did after all go after a license for all of Trekdom, not just the JJ-verse. So hopefully they still have a card up their sleeves for something to coincide with the 50th Anniversary in 2016.
1701, while I agree that Star Trek fans might be engineers, astronauts, doctors, etc....We are still all nerds! Lol Do you watch The Big Bang Theory? Star Wars fans are basically all nerds too! I know I double dip in the nerd bowl! Lol The point I'm trying to make here is that the geek life style is now kind of cool now, and us nerds like our pop culture too. Some nerd out there will buy Star Trek figures to decorate the dorm room or something if the product is presented as something worthy and not as the junk that Playmates dropped in 2009. A Star Trek Black Series is the shot in the arm that our hobby needs!
So if Hasbro would suddenly start popping out Star Trek figures, I'm almost certain they would follow the model of The Star Wars Black Series. Hasbro did after all go after a license for all of Trekdom, not just the JJ-verse. So hopefully they still have a card up their sleeves for something to coincide with the 50th Anniversary in 2016.
1701, while I agree that Star Trek fans might be engineers, astronauts, doctors, etc....We are still all nerds! Lol Do you watch The Big Bang Theory? Star Wars fans are basically all nerds too! I know I double dip in the nerd bowl! Lol The point I'm trying to make here is that the geek life style is now kind of cool now, and us nerds like our pop culture too. Some nerd out there will buy Star Trek figures to decorate the dorm room or something if the product is presented as something worthy and not as the junk that Playmates dropped in 2009. A Star Trek Black Series is the shot in the arm that our hobby needs!
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Posted 30 July 2013 - 01:06 PM
That 3/1 ratio count is from Hasbro in a 2013 Toy Fair interview and from follow up Q&As with Daryll Depriest, the Head Honcho over Hasbro's Star Wars and GI Joe production teams. Some Star Wars fans, like some Star Trek fans, see the Prequel Trilogy as an abomination and collect only Original Trilogy characters. See a comparison here? Lol
So if Hasbro would suddenly start popping out Star Trek figures, I'm almost certain they would follow the model of The Star Wars Black Series. Hasbro did after all go after a license for all of Trekdom, not just the JJ-verse. So hopefully they still have a card up their sleeves for something to coincide with the 50th Anniversary in 2016.
1701, while I agree that Star Trek fans might be engineers, astronauts, doctors, etc....We are still all nerds! Lol Do you watch The Big Bang Theory? Star Wars fans are basically all nerds too! I know I double dip in the nerd bowl! Lol The point I'm trying to make here is that the geek life style is now kind of cool now, and us nerds like our pop culture too. Some nerd out there will buy Star Trek figures to decorate the dorm room or something if the product is presented as something worthy and not as the junk that Playmates dropped in 2009. A Star Trek Black Series is the shot in the arm that our hobby needs!
Whilst I agree with all of that, there is one HUGE, VAST difference... And that is that Star Wars has and will continue to appeal to the kids and Star Trek unless CBS/Paramount do something, will continue to appeal to adults and ultimately the only way we'll ever see a line as extensive as Star Wars, Paramount and CBS will have to go after the kids in a way that may not appeal to the fans who want a line like The Black Series.
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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:07 PM
I agree with that and say bring on a Star Trek Animated Series.
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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:28 PM
I've just got all 4 of the "First Day of Issue" 6 inch figures from the London Toys R Us megastore (apparently on the last day they'll be available before being removed from the store and sent back to Hasbro) and wow these are stunning.
Having a Star Trek line identical to it would be incredible for sure and just how Hasbro have made the release an event in itself just fills me with excitement for this line... Star Trek has definitely got the bum deal with merchandise
First Day Of Issue versions? Are those different?? Like do they have a sticker or something?
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First Day Of Issue versions? Are those different?? Like do they have a sticker or something?
They have an orange sticker on the box they come in saying "First Day of Issue" and apparently they are limited to a certain number. I think it was in celebration of Star Wars Celebration Europe because they were only available this weekend just gone in the UK. Manager at TRU said that I had bought them on the very last day before they were being taken off of the shelves and returned to Hasbro. Release date for these is the 15th August apparently.
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Posted 31 July 2013 - 09:11 AM
They did that with some of the transformers prime figures too. I saw an Arcee first day issue sitting on the shelf my last visit to TRU,.
Same figure with a sticker that says first day of issue. If they dont sell out they will show back up later on the shelf.
SInce I open them I dont care on way or the other about the sticker on the box.
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Posted 01 August 2013 - 02:51 PM
I keep going back and forth on whether to get into this series. The only other SW toys I have seriously collected are the Titaniums (I have a couple other things here and there but just for kicks). This seems like exactly what I have always wanted to collect for SW figures, but it comes about 10-20 years after I was ready to collect them. I definitely will only be buying OT figures. The fact that carbonite Han was SDCC pisses me off because who doesn't want that? Everyone wants that. I have a Luke & R2 in my pile of loot but I honestly don't know if I want pilot Luke that badly and I am skipping the Sandtrooper for sure. I can only imagine how many Stormtrooper variants we are going to see. I had actually canceled my preorder for those two until wave 2 was announced, when Slave Leia/Boba/Greedo piqued my interest and I decided to re-pre-order all the OTs. I just hope that we don't get the entire Cantina cast before they finish the principals.
But seriously. Is there no end to SW toys? Why are there SO MANY. It is madness. Who could ever hope to be a SW completist, even if money were no issue?
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I'm very much not a Star Wars fan, there's only room for one "Star" in my universe but... These are that good I had to pick them up. I mean I love the rivalry between Trek and Wars and to have that kind of thing going on with my toys looks cool, the Sandtrooper is astonishingly good so I'd perhaps pick him up, we are getting a Stormtrooper in wave three as well as Empire Strikes Back, Cloud City luke (new head sculpt etc..)
I know what you mean though, I think there's actually too many Star Wars toys but people keep buying them for some reason.
I think the problem with Trek is that far too many companies have taken on the merchandise for it. With Star Wars it has just been Hasbro (Kenner at first but Hasbro bought them and continued on). Had Playmates stuck with Star Trek and continued to produce Star Trek toys from 92 until today then we may be looking at the same kind of line as TMNT but unlike Star Trek, Star Wars has kept itself relevant to the people who matter when it comes to selling toys... The kids.
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Posted 02 August 2013 - 09:40 AM
Im a fan of both. I go hot and cold on each one. It seems to flow with current movies or shows.
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Posted 02 August 2013 - 01:11 PM
I was a Star Wars fan first but really hit my stride as a Trekkie when I saw Star Trek IV! Shortly after I discovered the DC Star Trek comic and was really locked in with TNG! My dad watched it from TOS run and I remember a few of the Syndicated run episodes in the 70s and early 80s. The first episode I ever saw was The Empath. Hardly the episode to entice a five year old Star Wars fan! Lol I can honestly see that Star Trek is going to really need an animated series to keep the kids interested and it would be great if CBS was out of the picture.
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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:07 PM
I guess I would call myself a sci fi fan. I like all different tpes including Star Trek and Star Wars. I don't think one is better than the other because they are very different.
I collect figures and merchandise from both. I have now been checking every target near and on my way to work for the past week and have not seen one of these yet.
I collect figures and merchandise from both. I have now been checking every target near and on my way to work for the past week and have not seen one of these yet.
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Posted 02 August 2013 - 11:05 PM
Got my Black figures in! I have to give it to Hasbro... these are just plain beautiful figures all around. Lots of great, useful articulation. Amazing amount of paints and graphics. Tons of thoughtful accessories. If I have any complaints - the paint on my R2 really could be better. It's a bit fuzzy in places and the silver is a little messed up on the side of his dome. So I'll probably be seeking a replacement in person at some point. I also wish they had stands as the Sandtrooper is a bit top-heavy with his backpack. But that's it. They are seriously amazing in every other way. I really hope they keep up this level of care and quality with future waves.
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