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#321 Alteran195

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:20 PM

I don't think you'll find a 'clean' B, dude. Mine has the correct pennants, but still has the wash on it. I don't mind (I usually rub my finger over the tip of a pencil, and put a little bit of weathering on my ships anyway, just little highlights), but I do understand people not being a fan of it.
As for the next ships, it's got to be Reliant and a K't'inga. I've been wondering, will DST continue this as a pattern going forward - that's to say, one federation ship, and one alien ship? After Reliant, the only fed ships I can see them doing are the Defiant, Voyager, and Enterprise C. After the K't'inga class, I can only see the Romulan Warbird, and imagine they'll have a shot at something Borg-related.
Just a random thought. :)


I think it'd be a great idea to have a Federation and an alien ship that goes well with it, they could help sell each other.

Reliant and K'Tinga go well together since both ships are from the same era.
Defiant could go with a Dominion Bug, or Cardassian Galor
Voyager could go with a Borg Cube or Sphere
Enterprise C could go with a TNG Warbird. Even though it wasn't a TNG Warbird that destroyed it, it was a Romulan a Warbird that did.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 03:18 AM

At long last we have reviewed the Excelsior.  I broke down, went to my local comic shop and bought the fucker.  Man, am I glad I did.  EE is still on the water, or whatever.  Wathc the review to watch us gush like schoogirls, do a side by side with the Enterprise B, and throw in an extra special suprise:

 



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Posted 21 March 2014 - 05:21 AM

I'm a little disappointed, just got an email from Forbidden Planet saying that they don't expect stock now until late May.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:48 AM

Mars, As far as the Excelsior being a bad design. Them thar's fighten words. LOL...

 

 

 

OK:  I didn’t exactly say it is a bad design.  I said it wasn’t my favorite. 

But I can see how my post can be interpreted as a bit harsh on the Great Experiment.  I must apologize for this.

I actually do love the Excelsior, which is why I bought two versions of her in the last few months.   (I find it fascinating that for decades, all we had for an Excelsior toy were the MicroMachines (I do not count the B with Excelsior stickers that Playmates released), then BAM!  HotWheels, Eaglemoss, and now DST, all within a few months.  We are in the Age of Excelsior!)

 

 

In the smaller scales we’ve had until now she didn’t look as Lego-like to me than the huge DST version sitting inches away from me in my computer room / Trekroom;  It just hit me square on the face the night I got her (pun intended!)

But, she really is glorious from certain angles.  A real beauty.

 

I do stand by my secondary hull comments.  Why is the top flat like that ? – seems like wasted space.  Really looks like a cruiseship with a shuffleboard and swimming pools deck.   And the bottom still looks unfinished to me.  It made sense in Star Trek III, as it was an NX experimental craft to test Transwarp, which left Drydock while still under construction to chase the Enterprise, but she should have been finished in time for Undiscovered Country.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:38 AM

Fantastic video, can't wait to get this. :)



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Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:40 AM

I was just messing around with you mars369. LOL. I can see some of the comparisons you made to a cruise ship with the flat deck. I personally have always loved this design. Its always kind of reminded me of a giant aircraft carrier. Sleek but tuff. Either way I think DST knocked it out of the park with this one.



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Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:03 PM

Watch your language Will Decker !!!  This is a PG-13 kid friendly zone !!!  LOL.... ;)



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Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:26 PM

I still haven't unboxed my DST Excelsior, but I've always loved the design too.  Ever since I first saw it in the movie, I guess the "NX" version, I thought it was awesome.  I'm not nearly as excited about the changes they made to make the Enterprise -B, but I'll buy one of those too, probably.



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Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:48 PM

Great videos guys, as always.  It made me want to go out and buy an Excelsior all over again even though I can see mine from where sit at my desk typing this.  She really is a home run.  :D

 

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 06:53 PM



I'm a little disappointed, just got an email from Forbidden Planet saying that they don't expect stock now until late May.

 

I'm trying to play it cool, but with all these gorgeous photos, and The Will & Prommie Show getting renewed for a new season... I'm startin' ta get antsy!



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Posted 23 March 2014 - 10:03 AM

At long last we have reviewed the Excelsior.  I broke down, went to my local comic shop and bought the fucker.  Man, am I glad I did.  EE is still on the water, or whatever.  Wathc the review to watch us gush like schoogirls, do a side by side with the Enterprise B, and throw in an extra special suprise:

 

When do we get a review of the puzzle your girlfriend was doing.  I bet she would be pissed if afterward Prometheus put Aztec on her finished puzzle.



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:49 PM

OMG I LOOOOOOVE HER!!!! She just came today and I seriously love it...the wait was WELL WORTH IT! So beautiful.



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 02:07 AM

When do we get a review of the puzzle your girlfriend was doing.  I bet she would be pissed if afterward Prometheus put Aztec on her finished puzzle.

Hey Qcjoe..... I'll Aztec anything and everything if you give me enough time...... ;)



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 02:45 PM

Hey Qcjoe..... I'll Aztec anything and everything if you give me enough time...... ;)

Aztec is just like cowbell.  You can always use more cowbell.



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 07:36 PM

Aztec is just like cowbell.  You can always use more cowbell.


Love it !!! Love Blue Oyster Cult as well.... ;)

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 07:25 PM

Got my Excelsior today, Looks great!

I've now got to get to covering the Star Trek IV Bird of Prey.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 03:50 AM

 

I'm trying to play it cool, but with all these gorgeous photos, and The Will & Prommie Show getting renewed for a new season... I'm startin' ta get antsy!

I know how you feel old friend; I ordered my HMS Bounty BoP and Excelsior from BBTS this go–around because I figured I'd have a bunch of stuff coming from them at once, and both ships are still listed as pre–order items. I'm starting to wonder if BBTS and EE have their stock coming over on the same boat. (Leave it to BBTS and EE to have delays one of the few times I didn't order my ships from NFCC.) Ah well, patience is a virtue, and I'm looking forward to watching the latest season of The Will & Prommie Show as soon as I'm back on a machine that can handle YouTube a bit better than the one I'm using. (If the Klingons saw this thing, they'd call it garbage fit for Captain Kirk's scow, and much like Scotty, I'd be reading technical journals once they did. :P)

 

Got my Excelsior today, Looks great!

I've now got to get to covering the Star Trek IV Bird of Prey.

http://rborg42.wordp...ects-excelsior/

Tyjos, as always, I absolutely love your blog entries on DST's latest releases, and just read them now. I can't wait to go back and look at the full size photos you took once I'm on a faster computer again. As always, your photos are excellent, even in the smaller sizes.

 

Regarding the comments pertaining to the Enterprise–B's "flat deck," I'm pretty sure that was done to give the Enterprise–B a look that was consistent with an old galleon. This would be consistent with modeling the TOS movie–era's ship combat style after galleon battles. (We all know that TOS modeled said battles after submarine warfare, but that style of combat was deemed to slow for the films, hence the change in style.) The combat style changed again for TNG, trading galleons for frigates, and if you look closely, you can see that the Enterprise–D takes some design cues from said frigates as well. DS9 is particularly interesting in this regard, as the early seasons attempt to combine a variety of combat styles to match it's variety of ships. galleon–esque Excelsior–class ships act like galleons, while Frigate–like Galaxy–class ships act like frigates. This sounds like a great idea on paper, but fans at the time didn't like the results on screen, so DS9's production crew dropped the mixed combat styles and opted to model their battles after air warfare rather than sea warfare. (This is particularly obvious after the introduction of the Defiant, which is smaller than many previous Trek ships, and which moves like a fighter jet.) VOY and everything since then has also adopted the "air–warfare" combat style, with ships being designed to look more streamlined, and to move like planes rather than seafaring vessels. (Look at the Intrepid and Sovereign–class ships for two examples of this.) The notable exception is ENT, which tried to mix the air–warefare style with the TOS–era submarine warfare style of combat; while the latter style worked in TOS, it clashed with the tone of ENT as a whole, and felt jarringly out of place. Interestingly, the JJ–verse uses the same "air–warfare" combat style as virtually everything since DS9, but it's ship designs appear to largely be inspired by the galleon–inspired TOS movie–era ships such as the Excelsior–class.

 

No one should feel bad if they didn't realize the Excelsior–class was modeled after a galleon's hull. I personally never noticed this until someone pointed it out to me, but the design hit me like a sack of bricks as soon as I noticed it. It's really an excellent example of hiding something in plain sight. Voyager would repeat this technique when the Intrepid–class was model after a spoon; I didn't see it until someone stuck it next to a garden trowel on a star field. Once I saw the "floating space trowel," Voyager's inspiration became obvious. As for an in–universe explanation for the flat–hull, I'd think it would be similar to the explanation for removing the "neck" from the Sovereign–class: extremely rounded hulls are a more fragile target for enemy ships, so Starfleet's Engineers limited the ship's curves and tried to build a more durable hull. Likewise, the change back to more rounded hulls could be explained by the large flat hull going to the opposite extreme that succeeded in durability, but made for a larger target. This would explain why the hulls of future ships were usually sloped, but not really round, nor really flat.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:28 AM

TRU has the 2000 in stock apparently

 

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:52 PM

I know how you feel old friend; I ordered my HMS Bounty BoP and Excelsior from BBTS this go–around because I figured I'd have a bunch of stuff coming from them at once, and both ships are still listed as pre–order items. I'm starting to wonder if BBTS and EE have their stock coming over on the same boat. (Leave it to BBTS and EE to have delays one of the few times I didn't order my ships from NFCC.) Ah well, patience is a virtue, and I'm looking forward to watching the latest season of The Will & Prommie Show as soon as I'm back on a machine that can handle YouTube a bit better than the one I'm using. (If the Klingons saw this thing, they'd call it garbage fit for Captain Kirk's scow, and much like Scotty, I'd be reading technical journals once they did. :P)

 

Tyjos, as always, I absolutely love your blog entries on DST's latest releases, and just read them now. I can't wait to go back and look at the full size photos you took once I'm on a faster computer again. As always, your photos are excellent, even in the smaller sizes.

 

Regarding the comments pertaining to the Enterprise–B's "flat deck," I'm pretty sure that was done to give the Enterprise–B a look that was consistent with an old galleon. This would be consistent with modeling the TOS movie–era's ship combat style after galleon battles. (We all know that TOS modeled said battles after submarine warfare, but that style of combat was deemed to slow for the films, hence the change in style.) The combat style changed again for TNG, trading galleons for frigates, and if you look closely, you can see that the Enterprise–D takes some design cues from said frigates as well. DS9 is particularly interesting in this regard, as the early seasons attempt to combine a variety of combat styles to match it's variety of ships. galleon–esque Excelsior–class ships act like galleons, while Frigate–like Galaxy–class ships act like frigates. This sounds like a great idea on paper, but fans at the time didn't like the results on screen, so DS9's production crew dropped the mixed combat styles and opted to model their battles after air warfare rather than sea warfare. (This is particularly obvious after the introduction of the Defiant, which is smaller than many previous Trek ships, and which moves like a fighter jet.) VOY and everything since then has also adopted the "air–warfare" combat style, with ships being designed to look more streamlined, and to move like planes rather than seafaring vessels. (Look at the Intrepid and Sovereign–class ships for two examples of this.) The notable exception is ENT, which tried to mix the air–warefare style with the TOS–era submarine warfare style of combat; while the latter style worked in TOS, it clashed with the tone of ENT as a whole, and felt jarringly out of place. Interestingly, the JJ–verse uses the same "air–warfare" combat style as virtually everything since DS9, but it's ship designs appear to largely be inspired by the galleon–inspired TOS movie–era ships such as the Excelsior–class.

 

No one should feel bad if they didn't realize the Excelsior–class was modeled after a galleon's hull. I personally never noticed this until someone pointed it out to me, but the design hit me like a sack of bricks as soon as I noticed it. It's really an excellent example of hiding something in plain sight. Voyager would repeat this technique when the Intrepid–class was model after a spoon; I didn't see it until someone stuck it next to a garden trowel on a star field. Once I saw the "floating space trowel," Voyager's inspiration became obvious. As for an in–universe explanation for the flat–hull, I'd think it would be similar to the explanation for removing the "neck" from the Sovereign–class: extremely rounded hulls are a more fragile target for enemy ships, so Starfleet's Engineers limited the ship's curves and tried to build a more durable hull. Likewise, the change back to more rounded hulls could be explained by the large flat hull going to the opposite extreme that succeeded in durability, but made for a larger target. This would explain why the hulls of future ships were usually sloped, but not really round, nor really flat.

 


Thanks! I am considering doing Video I can record in HD on my Camera so I am tempted to do a test of the Sounds and Lighting plus I STILL got to get to covering DST's Knight Rider KARR.

I'm tempted now to get the Battle Damaged Enterprise B, I am very pleased with how the Excelsior came out DST Does a good job with the Lights on this one.

Now I wonder how long till we'll get the next DST Ships....I wish DST Would be pumping out the ships every couple months...the waiting is crazy but I'm glad at times it's worth the wait in the end.

Great Job DST on the Excelsior!

 



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:11 PM

TRU has the 2000 and damaged Ent-B in stock for $59.99 each.  They also have a 20% coupon right now (FRIEND20) making them each $47.99 + tax.  They have many of the other recent DST ships/props in stock too which should also work with the coupon.






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