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#21 Matty-lad

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 04:57 PM

I do believe in Aliens, and not just because i like trek. In a universe as vast as our own it would be arrogant of us as a spices to believe we are the only intelligent life in it. 


This is exactly my view. There is no way we are the only life forms present in a universe of this size.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 05:30 PM

Aaaawwww... no poll??!!😜

Alien life may be closer than we imagine ... several moons of Jupiter and Saturn seem to have the makings to support life... but not as we know it.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 11:23 PM

I wasnt really sure about how to make a poll, but I welcome it if anyone wishes to add one. I dont expect that all life will be as we know it and I would not be surprised if we have planets of Hortas and all other kinds of life.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 08:00 AM

I can't imagine other alien life out there really resembling anything we can think of. It is most likely something very "alien" to us. Just think of the vast differences in life on our planet. Planets with more hostile environments would definitely create life forms like we've never seen before.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:49 AM

Anyone see "the Europa report"? Not a great movie IMO, but based on the science that of the possibility of life on Europa.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 03:51 PM

I like the tardigrade type alien from Discovery. Thats an Earth critter that certainly proves that diverse life forms can be adaptable to many diverse and even inhospitable environments. I think even something simple like sea monkeys, which can lie dormant for long periods of time make me optimistic for the chances of life outside of Earth even within our own solar system. On a cosmic scale of intelligent life, Im sure we rate a lot closer to microorganisms than those species capable of trans galactic travel! lol

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 06:47 PM

Anyone see "the Europa report"? Not a great movie IMO, but based on the science that of the possibility of life on Europa.


I did. It had some cool moments.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:41 AM

How close are we to visiting other worlds?  Not very.  We're an adolescent race that is still finding an identity and hasn't passed Driver's Ed yet.  And when we do start, it will be via slow methods of transportation, so we won't be able to reach out very far.

 

If by chance, another intelligence in our same state of development were to find us, I think we'd be pretty similar.  Struggling to outgrow our biological biases (all of which I expect are fairly universal to any biological life form).  Struggling to "express ourselves" which is what creates all of the diversity that in turn creates all the tumult in our societies.  They wouldn't look at us and think "boy, what a bunch of losers", they'd just see another example of themselves.

 

On Star Trek, Alien races tend to be presented as not having much diversity.  Sure, some Klingons may have ridges and others don't, but they all generally agree, Kahless is awesome and so is bullying people.  And so on.

 

Perhaps this is because these intelligences capable of faster, further space travel have gone on from adolescence to adulthood, and know who they are, and are comfortable with it, or have more pressing concerns (or lofty) than "expressing themselves".  (More likely it is bad writing, but hey, maybe reality would turn out to line up with that bad writing...)

 

So perhaps we will get there too.

 

And in that case, what interest does an adult have with a teenager, except to ignore them or assert their own "wisdom" over them?

 

Just some thoughts.



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Posted 20 October 2017 - 11:47 AM

On Star Trek, Alien races tend to be presented as not having much diversity.  Sure, some Klingons may have ridges and others don't, but they all generally agree, Kahless is awesome and so is bullying people.  And so on.

 

It's not just Star Trek. In my professional experience it's extended to almost every other sci-fi franchise.

 

For example, when I worked on Star Wars, we were tasked with creating a royal female Hutt. Initially I thought, great, we can depict a Hutt that's the opposite of Jabba, one that isn't a fat, naked, slobbering slug. Where Jabba was what I considered to be the worst example of Hutt, this new character could be the best. 

 

Lucasfilm wouldn't allow it. They insisted all Hutts were not only ugly, fat, and naked but criminals. Otherwise they weren't Hutts. Imagine every Human being depicted as Fat Bastard.

 

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But aliens tend to be set decoration in Star Wars. They really serve no other purpose and could just as easily be humans. Even Spielberg's most famous aliens are naked little guys who all look the same. At least with Star Trek the aliens have certain abilities that requires them to be non-human, whether it's the ability to read minds or shapeshift their bodies.

 

And back to the original topic, if extraterrestrial life was revealed to us, the messenger would be pretty important. I'd sooner believe Tom Cruise than the president of the United States these days.



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:03 PM

A species of Fat Bastards....isn't that kinda what happened in Wall-E?  Guess Disney is a perfect match.

 

Would have been interesting to see your take on a Hutt.  Clone Wars had that baby Hutt...it was too young to be a criminal yet.  I only ever watched the pilot so that's all the CGI EU I can call upon right now.

 

I guess Ferengi were the Hutts of Star Trek...  Would have been nice if it were acknowledged that there were other philosophies and cultures on Ferenginar.  I guess Rom and Nog were leading the resistance.  Amazing how they didn't destroy their own homeworld before getting to warp.



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:43 PM

Watch more than the pilot, after the first season or two of The Clone Wars it gets real damn good. Definitely one of the best parts of the Star Wars EU. Really expands on, and add really well to the prequels. Can’t recommend it enough.

Just make sure you look up it’s chronological order since it wasn’t aired in the proper order.

You do see more Hutts, but they are all criminals like MisterPL said.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:42 AM

 Clone Wars had that baby Hutt...it was too young to be a criminal yet. 

 

He was a little brat, though, well on his way. Maybe he'll show up in one of the live-action movies. 



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:25 AM

Watch more than the pilot, after the first season or two of The Clone Wars it gets real damn good.

 

I will, someday, when I get to it!



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Posted 23 December 2017 - 03:40 PM

So, back on this subject, just wondering what others here make of these news reports? There are several floating around. CNN, ABC News, Fox News, The New York Times, Senator Harry Reed, Journalist Leslie Kean, Tweets from Georgio Tsoukalas, Tom Delonge, John Podesta, etc. Im really intrigued. Could this possibly be the beginnings of disclosure? Or maybe something else? Im actually alarmed that acknowledgement of the statement that these are NOT OURS by the Department of Defense is not being met with more interest than it is.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=-2b4qSoMnKE

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 09:43 PM

It's been a fantastic week, if not to just see some credible alternatives come to the forefront of discussion on the various places I visit.

 

Everyone (including those involved with TTS) seems to believe we're dealing with ETs/aliens, but I have to say, a big part of me feels that this whole thing is one military branch (say, the air force) 'fooling' another branch of the same military (for example - and in this case, the navy), which would take some of the suspicion away from this tic-tac shaped object appearing over key Russian and Chinese facilities.***

***If I'd saved the URL, I'd link to a story I saw someone post of a 'tic-tac' appearing over Russian bases a year later in 2005, but I haven't got it to hand right now.

 

One of the bigger things I read this week that I'd personally never heard of before, was the story of how in 1980, a 3M Scotch Tape factory accidentally created what can only be described as a force field:

http://amasci.com/we...ual/e-wall.html

 

Here's the guy from the article above:
https://www.esda.org...avid-e-swenson/

 

 

So yeah, it's been a great week. :)






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