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[Sybeck1]

Wow I thought there was some beauty under those ridges. I really enjoyed tonights episode.

[Alteran195]

Theres beauty there with or without the ridges.

Im glad they ended up giving her eye brows after the pilot.

[bgiles73]

Im liking both The Orville and Star Trek: Discovery at the moment. Im really able to relate to the characters on The Orville and I love all the nods to geek culture. Im waiting for references to more things I grew up with. Im also thinking that William Shatner has got to have a role on here at some point. I would really love it if we could get both him and George Takei both in the same episode!

[Gothneo]

For some reason my over the air Fox channel kept dropping out... so I'll need to re-watch this when its available to stream... however, what I did see I liked.

 

I caught the interrogation scene and loved it.

 

I can see why people might criticize the show as an outright Star Trek parody. This episode really made me think of "For the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky". 

 

Still, I find it enjoyable to watch.

[MisterPL]

Theres beauty there with or without the ridges.

Im glad they ended up giving her eye brows after the pilot.

 
That's where they lost me. Why do they have to change everything? Xelayans were established as having no eyebrows since the first episode and now they suddenly do without any explanation whatsoever! If they can't keep to the aesthetic canon of Orville TOE, this show will fail. Hard. Now it's just "Orville" in name only.

[s8film40]

I liked episode 4. I felt in this episode the story was pretty close to stories we've seen before, yet it's still good Sci-Fi. It was one of those "feel good" episodes that reminds me about what's the best part of science fiction. I thought the comedy aspect seemed to few a little better in this episode. I am still amazed that we've come to a point where we have a new Star Trek series and this weird comedy series is the actual true sci-fi series. I never would've ever imagined it, but yet here we are. 

[Gothneo]

 
That's where they lost me. Why do they have to change everything? Xelayans were established as having no eyebrows since the first episode and now they suddenly do without any explanation whatsoever! If they can't keep to the aesthetic canon of Orville TOE, this show will fail. Hard. Now it's just "Orville" in name only.

 

Just checking... your making a joke right?? 

[Gothneo]

Re-watched it in its entirety today.,.,. and... even though Ep 4, pretty much rips off Trek... I thought it was the best episode yet.

[JMW326]

I really enjoyed the last episode a lot.

[Alteran195]

Last episode was definitely good. Macfarlane is doing a better job with this series than I expected.

[robster]

Orville being the true sci fi series here?! I don't get the joke. STD wasn't great,but it's still true sci fi. Having seen promos for upcoming episodes,I'm still on the fence about STD. Orville had two so-so first episodes,but got better after that.

[Gothneo]

They are both sci-fi... just different things.

[s8film40]

I don't know, to me just because something is set in space doesn't make it true Sci-Fi. I mean yeah it would be classified as that but if you want real true science fiction storytelling The Orville seems to be where it's at right now. It's odd, I know. It's hard to look at it seriously, but they seem to be doing some serious stories.

[robster]

In what way is STD not real true sf storytelling? Just curious.

[Gothneo]

True... Something like Apollo 13 is not sci-fi, though much of its set in space.

 

Sci-fi is like any other broad genre... in so much as it has many sub-genres, and the are dynamic when it came out some people consider the likes of "A princess of Mars" to be Sci-Fi, but then they started calling it "Interstellar Romance", now its called sci-fi-fantasy. 

 

I know we've had this discussion before... but I think your looking for whats known as "Hard Science-fi"... which Trek never was... or you just have your own idea about what constitutes good science-fi... which is fine... but bother the Orville and Discovery seem to fit the current definition, which is ...

 

 

Science fiction (often shortened to SF or sci-fi) is a genre of speculative fiction, typically dealing with imaginative concepts such as futuristic science and technology, space travel, time travel, faster than light travel, parallel universes, and extraterrestrial life. Science fiction often explores the potential consequences of scientific and other innovations, and has been called a "literature of ideas".^[1] It usually avoids the supernatural, and unlike the related genre of fantasy, historically, science-fiction stories were intended to have a grounding in science-based fact or theory at the time the story was created, but this connection is now limited to hard science fiction

 

[VulcanFanatic]

The Orville is on Hulu without commercials, thankfully. I just watched the first episode, thought it was great. It really has the TNG feel to it, which was welcome. I know this is a sort of Star Trek parody and I'm okay with that and I like it better than Discovery.

[s8film40]

I dont see Discovery fitting that definition very well. The real key though is what is the driving force of the story. Discovery is about the characters and the related drama rather than dealing with imaginative concepts. Space travel, starships, Klingons etc. are all more like scenery in the backdrop of Discovery. The Orville on the other hand is taking those concepts head on. Now yes its set in space and its on a starship and of course if we could go back in time and look for it at a Blockbuster video Im confident it would be located in the science fiction section. Its just not what I would personally consider real science fiction. I suppose I would say Discover is light sci-fi and The Orville is medium/regular sci-if.

[VulcanFanatic]

I finished all 4 episodes and it's very entertaining and fun to watch. It really makes me remember how much I miss TNG.

[Gothneo]

Granted the prolog of Discovery is a bit light, but they keep telling us that this is really one complete story... whereas Orville gets in a complete concept in its allotted 1 hr. I would agree that conceptually the complete premise of Discovery isn't known to us... unlike something like BSG, where the intro of the 1st episode tells you right off that Humanity is fighting their own creation. 

[MisterPL]

I want to see The Orville do a time travel episode. Go back in time 100 years and make all the sets look like Star Trek TOS. And make sure none of the alien crew members have ridged foreheads. Don't even mention it, just take them right out of all that makeup and expect the audience to accept it.