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#121 Alteran195

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:48 PM

It's simple economics.  The Romulan Bird of Prey is THE cheapest Star Trek ship to produce:

very over-simple shape

Very few pieces to assemble in the factory

only two LEDs

 

and they can charge the same as their other, more expensive-to-produce ships

Now now, don't undersell it. There will be 3 LEDs, you can't forget the impulse engines. 



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:55 PM

you are still under selling it...4 for the plasma torpedo...even the playmates one had that (along with the impulse light, just no lighted warp nacelles).



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:56 PM

and now that I think about it...I think the Romulan BOP was the last ship that Playmates produced wasn't it?



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:57 PM

you are still under selling it...4 for the plasma torpedo...even the playmates one had that (along with the impulse light, just no lighted warp nacelles).

Slight problem is on the DST ship its not clear plastic on the front... so unless that changes there wont be 4.

 

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I don't know if it was the last, but it was certainly a good one. The detail was all painted on which was a lot nicer then stickers. 

 

Edit 2:

The last ship was the Insurrection Enterprise E in 1998, the Romulan BoP came out the year before with the Defiant. 



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 05:29 PM

Slight problem is on the DST ship its not clear plastic on the front... so unless that changes there wont be 4.

I don't think that's necessarily as much of an issue as you might think it is. In the show, the plasma torpedo launcher wasn't really visible to begin with; it (the torpedo) just sort of appeared as a "blob" on screen moving toward the Enterprise, almost as if it came out of nowhere. DST could put the LED inside of the plastic and actually use the light bleed that we normally complain about to their advantage. Paint the launcher like the one that's on display, or mold it out of plastic similar to that used on the TWOK 1701, and it'd effectively be screen accurate. One of my only gripes with the Playmates version of the ship is that the launcher is that in–your–face reddish color that it never was anywhere else, and that after designing it that way, they didn't even bother to light it. I trust DST to rectify that issue, hopefully in the way I've just described.

 

Edit:
I don't know if it was the last, but it was certainly a good one. The detail was all painted on which was a lot nicer then stickers. 
 
Edit 2:
The last ship was the Insurrection Enterprise E in 1998, the Romulan BoP came out the year before with the Defiant.

The BoP was definitely one of Playmates' better ships, and you're right, it was released alongside the Defiant shortly after their 1701. I find simultaneously funny and sad that the Enterprise–E was their last ship though; funny because not even the Enterprise–E could save Star Trek: Insurrection or Playmates' toy line, and sad because despite being a huge improvement over the FC version in some ways, the INS version was still sorely lacking, and we ahd to wait until 2006 for DST to do an accurate sculpt. (Not to mention waiting until 2012 for an accurate paint job.) Worse, the INS version had no excuse to be as inaccurate as the FC version designed from pre–production materials.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 05:36 PM

I don't think that's necessarily as much of an issue as you might think it is. In the show, the plasma torpedo launcher wasn't really visible to begin with; it (the torpedo) just sort of appeared as a "blob" on screen moving toward the Enterprise, almost as if it came out of nowhere. DST could put the LED inside of the plastic and actually use the light bleed that we normally complain about to their advantage. Paint the launcher like the one that's on display, or mold it out of plastic similar to that used on the TWOK 1701, and it'd effectively be screen accurate. One of my only gripes with the Playmates version of the ship is that the launcher is that in–your–face reddish color that it never was anywhere else, and that after designing it that way, they didn't even bother to light it. I trust DST to rectify that issue, hopefully in the way I've just described.

That would actually be a really cool way to do the torpedo launcher, I do hope DST does something like that with it. 



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:29 PM

Holy crap thats fantastic.  Do we know what the price point is on this?  I will buy this with the money Im saving from DST lol.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:31 PM

Holy crap thats fantastic.  Do we know what the price point is on this?  I will buy this with the money Im saving from DST lol.

Based on the price of Mal, around $180.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:51 PM

Just to illustrate why that TNG phaser tickles me so, here's a photo of a screen-used TNG phaser prop:
 
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Compared to the DST toy:
 

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The prop above isn't a "hero" version, so it lacks the power readout, and there was a lot of subtle variation from phaser-to-phaser on TNG, so they may not be an exact match, but this DST toy captures the character of the TNG phaser SO much better than any of the other efforts down through the years!
 
Rubies:
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Playmates:
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IPI Toys laser-pointer (Next-most accurate-looking):
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Posted 16 February 2015 - 09:09 PM

Based on the price of Mal, around $180.

Thats close to what most Hot Toys go for.  I really hope they plan on doing a line.  Ill get it for sure.  



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 12:56 AM

I don't understand the choice of the Romulan BoP either. I have the Playmates version and it's not the most exciting ship. This is one of DST's ships that I'll be passing on. I was really hoping for a ENT-C, VOY, or the Defiant from DS9. Very disappointing. Does DST tally the requests on the AskDST section of their site? Many here have requested the ships I've mentioned. Not one mention of a Romulan BoP. 

 

On the other hand, I'm not surprised at the choice of the Romulan BoP. Considering DST's recent struggles with quality control, especially in regards to the TWOK Enterprise, the Romulan BoP is a simple design and probably much cheaper to produce. 



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:06 AM

Im not usually a fan of the TNG Phaser (I know I know) preferring the Boomerang type from the movies and later series.... but I did love my TNG Playmates and still have it along with a few of my figures and ships so I am thinking I pick this up (support further TNG props like the Tricorders and even though I am buying a kit off eBay maybe a Boomerang!) along with that STIII model if it ever comes out!

 

Looking forward to a couple of their upcoming releases and as a couple others have said previously hopefully their next movie products will be the Reliant and the STV/VI Phaser.



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:44 AM

Im not usually a fan of the TNG Phaser (I know I know) preferring the Boomerang type from the movies and later series.... but I did love my TNG Playmates and still have it along with a few of my figures and ships so I am thinking I pick this up (support further TNG props like the Tricorders and even though I am buying a kit off eBay maybe a Boomerang!) along with that STIII model if it ever comes out!

 

Looking forward to a couple of their upcoming releases and as a couple others have said previously hopefully their next movie products will be the Reliant and the STV/VI Phaser.

Ya i'm not usually to big into props myself in general, but I really, really want a TNG era Tricorder, so I plan on buying the TNG phaser to help me hopefully get that one day. 

 

I also preordered the ST 3 Phaser, see if props are something I can really get into. 



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 03:41 PM

I have to admit I wasn't expecting a new ship, but it was an opportunity to break out the TrekToy Bingo card - and with great results.

 

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Good job, DST. :D  Can't say it's the one I would have liked to see as the second alien ship, but I'm pretty happy with any new ships regardless.  I'm most excited for them getting into TNG tech though, and can't wait to buy the phaser.  I still keep my play-worn Playmates phaser on display for sheer nostalgia.



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 04:24 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot...ise+NX-01+2.jpg

 

http://1.bp.blogspot...ise+NX-01+1.jpg

 

Good shots of the NX-01 there. It looks different, were those red lines on the saucer always there?

 

Edit: They were, but they look more defined on the new one. The paint job in general seems to have a lot more detail to it then the original NX-01. Looks great. 



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:18 PM

The NX-01's paint job looks superb. I hope they have a better stand in store. My stand is still whole, but I have seen numerous cases of broken stands from the first issued NX-01s. 



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:19 PM

It looks pretty much the same to me honestly

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:31 PM

There's definitely more detail on the saucer, I think the paint on the nacelles is more defined too. Same with the red lines on the saucer, which I don't really like, looks weird to me.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:32 PM

Finally! TNG Trek Tek!

 

I think this is a great choice by DST, and I hope they get the orders to match our enthusiasm! 

 

... of course, we probably won't see it until 2017 :o  but I'll wait. 



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 08:04 PM

Love the Trek Tek but the ships I have enough Enterprises and $70 for BOP no thanks bad enough I paid $25 for the Playmates version. Then seeing it for $6 at toys r us a few months later. I'll still support the line but not until an intelligent decision is made for an alien ship. Like everyone's said DST did NOT listen to us on this one.




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