Star Trek: Discovery. Series talk and discussion
Posted 21 August 2018 - 09:11 AM
Ive preoredered it. I want the bonus features, and like having physical media in case I cant have a particular streaming service anymore.
Posted 21 August 2018 - 07:44 PM
Posted 22 August 2018 - 05:56 AM
Statistically... younger people spend more on such things... even if they don't have as much disposable cash. Its why the 18-30 demographic is what they shoot for.
I hate to say it, but as older fans we aren't what they are aiming for and are kinda irrelevant.
Posted 22 August 2018 - 07:25 AM
Older fans are also literally dying off. So there's that.
Older fans who complain that Trek should be on network television also seem to have forgotten how many times networks have canceled Star Trek series.
Trek has managed to successfully appeal to the next generation before. Like it or not Discovery seems to be doing the same.
Posted 22 August 2018 - 08:20 AM
Posted 23 August 2018 - 09:33 PM
I disagree with your assessment of the BSG reboot, I didn't see it full of bad guys, but you like what you like and I like what I like so thats fine. I guess you didn't see the last Jedi... so spoiler alert... Lukes dead... so we don't have to worry about what a mess he turned into.
Personally I like a mix... and I want a good coherent story no matter what.
Deadpool was an indication that everything in the comic book genre that was getting so dark and serious... wasn't what everyone wanted... I think 1) people do want something with a lighter fare and more optimistic, and 2) hopefully the pendulum is swinging back that way, 3) maybe S2 of DISCO will go there.
Posted 24 August 2018 - 06:34 AM
Do people honestly only want depressing shows now?
I think it's more the critics who favor dark/depressing shows. Anything that makes _them_ sound smart and deep get's high praise, while everything else is either trashed or declared as for kids. Just look at The Orville. Critics destroyed it. But the audience reacted well to it, so well, that Discovery is trying to copy some of it's humor now. So, basically the fake-trek shows the real trek how to trek. Kinda ironic.
Personally I have no problems with dark - as long as there is soul and heart behind it, as long as a writer has actually something to say and knows how to say it. DS9 had something to say and said it well. nBSG had something to say and said it well. Discovery... I don't think they had something to say so far and even if they had, they don't seem to understand the language, only the terminology. All I hear is a whole lot of nothing and the rest is gibberish.
"Hey, let's write about a war. Dunno. Just... war. Wait, this is boring. Let's go to the mirror universe instead. Just because. Well, okay, that's cheesy. Only a couple of episodes left anyway. Let's get back to that shitty war and end the season."
For the Picard show I hope they have something more than "hey, you know what would be cool? Bringing back Patrick Steward. Somehow. In some... capacity."
Posted 24 August 2018 - 11:48 AM
I still think Discovery's season one story suffered from Fuller leaving, and them being too far along to change everything.
Hopefully season two is more cohesive, and the showrunners getting booted again doesn't have a similar effect. I'm much more intrigued by the story they've teased for season two than I was for the war story of season one.
Posted 25 August 2018 - 03:57 AM
Agreed Alteran195... it seems like they dropped sub-plots that Fuller had in mind.
Posted 27 August 2018 - 02:06 PM
Entertainment is escapism.
The overall tone of society dictates what most people are looking to get away from. If real life seems tense and grim then familiar, lighter fare will rule. When times are more optimistic, dark and gritty is fun because it's so far removed from reality.
Look at the rise and fall of The Walking Dead.
Posted 28 August 2018 - 07:39 AM
Hmmm pretty subjective... and I guess that it might be a bit relative then too? because if true then if your more generally optimistic your implying that you'd like darker grittier fare... and vice versa... and I don't know that true for most people... or are you suggesting that rule only works on a macro level?
Still an interesting concept... I may have to mull that one over more!
Posted 06 October 2018 - 05:49 PM
Holy shit, D7, Klingons with hair, super crisp visuals with no blue filter!
This looks very promising, cant wait.
Also, Pike seems pretty great.
Posted 06 October 2018 - 06:22 PM
Those Klingons are looking better... and Michelle Yeoh returns!
Looks like they may have a more coherent story... but we'll have to see how it unfolds.
Posted 06 October 2018 - 06:40 PM
17/01/19 for you non Americans.
Posted 07 October 2018 - 06:18 AM
I was gonna wait to renew my AA sub... but I forgot it was on autopay... so I'm in for another year at least. Which is fine, as there are other shows I've been watching, but I'll def be watching on Jan 17th.
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