Destructor!!!

Futher work on the interior:

 

 

 

Tidied up the jowls under the nose/head. They were a bit bulbous before, I've flattened them.

Sorry for the lack of updates, detailing is complete!
 
Studio Model

 
My Model

 
Studio Model

 
My Model

 

My Model

 

Studio Model

 

 

My Model

I am of two minds whether to cut the panels lines into the surface or just rely on decals.
 
I printed a small version as a test:

 
I'm noticing and tweaking details as I go - even the comparison images above identified another few tweaks that are needed!

Thanks for doing this Morgan, it's fascinating.

First image here is during the transition of command ceremony. The new captain is in the background (my nephew).

Captain! I'm detecting a ship dropping out of warp!

 

 

It's the USS Cerritos!

 

I based it on a comparison I found of the MSDs:

 

This thread is picture-deficient. The line must be drawn here! This far, no farther!

 

 

 

The Trek Collective was my source for these images, and there's a lot more info including videos of Ben from Eaglmoss showing her off.

Here's the article. The videos of Ben talking about the ship are well worth watching, you can tell he's not 100% happy with the end result either, and that dude knows his shit.

 

I have to agree with the disappointment. This is a super-basic looking model. The flat planar surfaces and clunky angles give off an almost LEGO vibe...

 

In fact, it strongly reminds me of THIS rancid and over-used stock image from the late-90's or some time:

 

(Just noticed this is tagged as a Lightworks image?! Tobias Richter made this thing?! He's really come along!)

 

Ben does note in the videos that it's not completely final, there are some sculpt details subject to change, but the shape is largely final - including that glaring lack of Saucer-rim detail. I think the most effective shape change would be to fix the interface between the neck and the Stardrive section - the flowing lines there are completely absent, and the shape of the deflector is too wide and the curves are off.

 

I was excited when I saw the thread title - I thought it was a revival of this lost gem - the partwork stymied by the 2011 Japanese Tsunami and Nuclear crisis.

 

That was a proper model of the Enterprise-D:

 

 

Look at that. There's no comparison here. What a let-down for Eaglemoss and Enterprise-D fans!

 

I christen this the Duploprise.

Great job!

I love the concept (BIG space/rocket nerd), but I fear for the execution. I've been a bit burnt out on Moore since the end of Galactica and Caprica. If we get the s1 & 2 BSG version of Moore and pair him with a bunch of space historian nerd creatives to guide the world building, this could be something very special.

 

If it's an alternate reality with inadequately explained artificial gravity and FTL with a "NASA chique" veneer, I'll be pissed.

I have to say the universe-hopping episodes have been more palatable to me. Probably more because it opens up the possibility (as you said, 1701D) of the canon discrepancies being retconned into a different universe. I'm not overly comfortable with explicitly stuffing more worms into the multi-verse can, but it's better than the contradiction we're stuck with.

 

A talented production designer could have reinvented the TOS aesthetic without re-skinning the look of Star Trek whole-cloth the way they did (I'm not saying the PD on STD isn't talented - just that they didn't take that opportunity - or were prevented from doing so...). That still really bothers me, and I think the show started out with some really dreadful writing, but it certainly has improved over the season. I'm finally actually interested in the story at the moment.

 

That said, I have the feeling that any sensible dovetailing with canon aesthetics and history is a vain hope. This show is all about ditching the past and being trendy. To that end, this plotline regarding the USS Defiant feels like a cocktease - especially when the Emperor showed up at the end of the last episode and we have the latest in a long line of off-screen torpedoes being fired from an unseen ship...

Thanks Morgan, it's interesting to get some idea how much I'd stand to make if I ever completely lost my fucking mind and sold my collection!

You need to find the ones in which the Discovery criticism (sheep's clothing) is quite clearly lifted to reveal the true bigotry against certain human beings (wolf) behind it.

 

Hmm, ok, that sounds dodgy alright. Though if the subject of those criticisms is a human named Kurtzman, and is motivated by writing style, I'd be ok with it.

 

 

 

When all is said by us here. CBS knows their brand more than us.

 

I don't think they do. What they do know is roughly what sells.

 

My personal metric for what is "great" is not informed by viewing figures or profits. It's informed by competent and compelling story telling.

When it comes to an existing property like Star Trek, competency means fitting the production to the setting. Discovery fails that one badly.

Compelling story telling is self-explanatory. Events and decisions that follow logically and cleverly from moment to moment, providing a solid basis for emotional involvement in the story. Discovery is improving episode by episode in that respect, but it started off very poorly, with events and decisions poorly explained or justified and regular bouts of bloody awful dialogue. It will have a very hard time overcoming its "sore thumb" status in canon.

 

Personally, I couldn't give a rat's ass what "sells", unless what's selling is going to prompt more of what I like.

 

I like Star Trek. On that note, it's heartening to see The Orville doing well.

 

Hopefully, the marketers will take notes from that show - although they're very likely to miss the substance: High-concept sci-fi featuring people working together in friendship for the good of everyone, and grasp the shadow: Episodic storytelling and low-brow humour!

I have a very low opinion of Hollywood suits and "visionary" creative types these days.

I haven't read all of VF's posts in this thread, but it feels like he's being unfairly ganged up on.

I know exactly how he feels about Disco.

Like Enterprise and JJTrek before it, it is staking claim to an era of Star Trek about which many things are already known... and overwriting them. It's shoehorning a new character into Spock's family and completely ignoring and recasting the aesthetics of the time period (with the notable exception of the phasers) and the Klingons. What makes this worse is that it's neither decades removed from established continuity, nor is it claiming to be set in a parallel universe.

If the creative team had respect for the franchise (rather than simply seeing the brand as a way to make a quick buck), this show would add to the canon of Star Trek, not alter it. I have no problem with an *updated*, *more realistic* look for the universe... but this is just *different*. There's no rhyme or reason for it.

There is an implied devaluation of Star Trek as-it-was in the attitude on display here.

People respond to these complaints with mockery along the lines of the "black and white Twilight Zone" comment on the last page. That's a straw man argument. We're not looking for a return to the production values of the 1960's, we're looking for the vision of the 1960s realised with modern production techniques.

There are indeed nods here and there, such as the gridded screens in the quarters or the aforementioned phaser designs, but "nods" and "references" to canon are nowhere near sufficient when something is supposed to be canon!

 

How much more satisfying would it be if the technique applied to the phasers were applied to everything: Where you could see something familiar and say "Ah! That's what it's supposed to look like!". (Here is that same philosophy applied to the TOS Enterprise)

 

In short:

UPDATE, not OVERWRITE

 

Now, all of this would be of secondary concern had Discovery been the best-written show ever, and not started on such a sour note. Things have been steadily improving since the pilot episodes, but terrible dialogue, pat exposition, and nonsensical "rule of cool" action scenes still hold far too much sway over this show.

 

You claim VF is sucking on lemons... well... poor choice of metaphor is all I'll say.

I'd be interested to see where Destructor got his info from :-)

 
 
Memory Alpha references my story there, they refer to the failed-bid model by Doug Lombardi of Digital Muse being used on this book cover:
 

 
Note the blunt-edged and spread-open deflector trench compared to the physical model, and screen-used Insurrection CGI model.
 
I can't remember where the full history of this CGI model was laid out, I thought it was Doug Drexler's long-defunct blog, but I can't find full reference to it there now.
 
 

I actually have one of the Screen used CGI models of the D I would have been happy to donate but I don't remember which version it is. DS9 or Enterprise.

 
Fascinating! What format is it in? If you could post a render, I might be able to ID it.

As to the Eaglemoss E, yes, I wish they had used a different source model, but the level of detail on it looks very nice. I'm not sure there are any other pre-made models of the ship in that scale that can compete. Not a patch on the DST versions, though, obviously.