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Jay K, yep. DS9 is a fav of mine too. I always saw Sec 31 as an allegory for the dangers within a society or organization. DS9 used it effectively to make the moral point that those dangers can be overcome and succumbing to fear isn't the way.

Im torn. I love Yeoh. I especially loved what she did with evil capt G. It was a standout from S1 Disco.

But like Ive said I deslike the idea of section 31 at all in the trek continuity, and if there was a singular bad idea that came out of DS9... Im gona go with that one.

Still... its bound to make for good cloak and dagger writing and between the possibility of entertaining story and what Yeoh will bring to it... it may be hard not to watch.

Of course there have been legitimate gripes about Discovery (pacing, tone, etc.) but they're few and far between. Most of the complaints are so superficial .... 

 

Actually, I think there are a number of legitimate complaints about DISCO... maybe not a huge number.. but I think they are rather large... 

Saw Aquaman today. A 1st rate effort, and I agree... probably one of the best efforts for the DC Universe!

 

 

Reminder that Season 2 Primer is on tonight!

Merry Christmas Everyone!

Into darkness did disappoint me greatly for exactly the reason you cite. It was a story that just didnt need to be retold... and I found it lazy. For all its detractions the 2009 reboot did reintroduce the franchise rather ably... I wanted to like it more... but I couldnt hate it... if that makes any sense... I waited for the sequel to jump in and get us back on Trek... and it didnt deliver imo. So yeah wasted opportunity.

JMW326, I get it, I know others do too... but as I've said before, I think its important to understand that to some people, its a lot more... a... lot! For some people Trek is, or has been, a defining part of their life, so they just can't take it as mere entertainment. Some people really really feel like they are being attacked.

Yeah, its like I said in the other thread... some of what they are dishing up may not be bad sci-fi... but its bad Star Trek... and it seems like its bad for Star Trek.  

New Trailer is up for S2 of DISCO.

 

I'm not sure if its gonna be good Trek... but dang... it sure looks like good SciFi to me!

 

https://youtu.be/9o8kFyeOdfY

IMO... the Role play has been some of DSTs best offerings. 

Or.... go and rent stuff for free from your local library!!!! 

Star Wars has been a franchise gold standard for some time now.

Everyone wants to be it but few are. I think one of the best examples of a franchise that peaked long ago but still has its resurgencies is plant o the apes. A huge cultural phenomena way before trek or wars... and it still has movies toys and other media but not like wars... I think in terms of a cultural phenomena trek hit its peak long ago. And will follow suit as POTA... tastes change and people move on. One day the Star Wars franchise will likely sputter to a low flicker.

I guess what Im rambling on about is that I see the experimentation as kind of a last gasp. If they find something that hits trek may see some resurgence... but I dont think it will ever hit the high it was at again.

I think we should try and enjoy what we can of it... which isnt to say I wont be critical of it when I dont like it but I just dont see it returning to its heyday.

Congrats on the Romulan find!

Fixed that for ya 

They can make 14 different series if they want to but until they get back to the original formula, they won't be the success that they I want.