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#821 Whirlygig

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 08:20 PM

From an interview with Peck (Spock):
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And you know what I think that reason will be...which if I'm right is so obvious I would think they were so stupid for thinking they could hide it...so I can't possibly be right...right?

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 11:28 PM

You still think hes from the mirror universe?

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 06:04 AM

Thats the obvious... or rather lazy... play.... but over thinking it... after the Lorca debacle... you'd think the 1st Sec 31 would do is come up with a way to detect if people in Starfleet were from an Alt U. But Maybe Sec 31 really isn't very good at what they do.



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Posted 01 March 2019 - 06:28 AM

I haven't seen the latest one yet, maybe it will change my working theories...read a spoiler article last night that mentioned a rather "cagey" development.

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 06:06 PM

Oh they are one their way there! 



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Posted 02 March 2019 - 12:47 AM

Now I watched it. I have absolutely no idea what they are trying to do with this season. Why would they go back to this particular, pretty ill-conceived part of the canon? What a mess....

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 07:53 AM

I'm not sure that even if you disregard all the canon paradoxes the DISCO story line, just by itself, is coherent. 

 

Even when I just try and focus on Buhrnam, as the main character and common thread throughout... its a mess. 



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 09:29 PM

Tonights episode may be one of the better of the season.... I think New eden is still a standout, but this wasn't bad.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 11:04 PM

Looks like we could be on our way to a retcon of JJverse? Or something?

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Posted 08 March 2019 - 01:57 AM

This episode was great! Really felt like Star Trek!

That opening recap was a nice gift to fans.

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Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:03 AM

Looks like we could be on our way to a retcon of JJverse? Or something?

Yes... thats kinda whats been implied... that one way or another to get a unified license they need to retcon something

 

This episode was great! Really felt like Star Trek!

That opening recap was a nice gift to fans.

 

Yes, I agree, overall it was a solid episode... and... I thought it was some decent sci-fi too!

 

If I have any critiques of this episode, it would be the Stamets / Coulder bits...  while I get that they may be trying to further their character development and set us up for something else... their issues didn't intersect cleanly with the overall plot and would rip me from the main story in a rather jarring manner.



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 07:10 AM

I don't have much to say about it, it wasn't terrible, except that consider the Talosians have been reduced from galactic threat to plot device for unlocking the mind of Spock and others, the locking of which was itself a contrivance. I mean they weren't much before that to be honest - ridiculous just as I previously charged - but they were more from a sci fi standpoint than we saw here. Just a few bald aliens waiting for people to show up for a fortune telling...

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 04:11 PM

So... if your expecting a stand-alone plot.... your probably right... I guess my brain... knowing what it knows... filled in some (lots) of blanks. It did feel like an episode for fans steeped in canon rather than for new fans. 



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Posted 14 March 2019 - 01:02 PM

I know I mentioned this before... but now since Star Trek discovery has actually been realesed on DVD... I saw I can rent it for free from my public library.

<sarc>Yes FREE... so folks if you have a decent library and dont want to pay AA.. just go see if your library has it... and if not ask them to buy it... in other words be a socialist! Get other people to give you something for free!!! <\sarc>

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 03:36 AM

Maybe Sec 31 really isn't very good at what they do.

The more I see of them, the more apparent this actually seems to be as a serious theory. I'm still not buying the theory about Spock's beard on the grounds that it's too obvious.

 

I know I mentioned this before... but now since Star Trek discovery has actually been realesed on DVD... I saw I can rent it for free from my public library.

<sarc>Yes FREE... so folks if you have a decent library and dont want to pay AA.. just go see if your library has it... and if not ask them to buy it... in other words be a socialist! Get other people to give you something for free!!! <\sarc>

LOL, I bought it on Blu-Ray when season one first came out as my "nudge" towards more Trek Blu–Ray, namely DS9–R (and eventually VGR–R,) but I'm far more interested in an S2 release given how much better this season has been overall.

 

One minor gripe in the "previously on Star Trek" recap from two weeks ago: Can whoever put that together please learn how aspect ratios work? Whoever cut that together had it (blech) Windowboxed, which drove me insane. Basically DSC is presented in a weird aspect ratio (2:1,) while TOS was presented in 4:3 like every other traditional TV show. "Full" HD is 1080p, or more accurately 1920x1080. If my math is right, that puts DSC at 1920x960. (Half of 1920 = 960.) The "issue" arises when you realize that TOS is 1440x1080 because of that 4:3 ratio. The solution here is actually fairly simple, crop (to 2:1) and then scale accordingly, and since you're starting with HD material as your source footage at the very minimum, you can scale quite well. The editor cropped, but they didn't scale, so instead of filling the 2:1 frame of DSC, we got footage cropped to 2:1 with windowboxing bars on all sides instead of just on the top and bottom. Given that this was a flashback/recap, any grain introduced from scaling wouldn't feel out of place, and I wouldn't have been jarringly taken out of the scene with the aspect ratio flip if this was fixed. I know it's not minor, but for a show that usually knows its technical standards, this feels like a smack in the face to how this should have been handled.



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:41 AM

I don't get why a "Previously on Star Trek" bit is even necessary... that was usually done because people may have missed some and it brings them up to speed... but you can't miss anything on a streaming service. Seems like a lazy way to reduce cost by reducing overall runtime with a recap. 



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 10:24 AM

While people watch shows, most don't study them. The purpose of the "previously on" bits isn't so much a recap as "THIS specific thing is what you need to remember for this episode!"



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:55 PM

Yeah... maybe... but I guess I don't buy it... because you can simply rewatch what you just saw... I think its a cost cutting measure... the same way flash back episodes were with old school TV... you got a new episode with very little cost because it wasn't anything really new. 



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Posted 19 March 2019 - 08:43 AM

Clip shows are absolutely a way to create a less expensive show. Recaps can be used as filler but they're not the same thing at all, especially when you're talking about a recap that's less than a minute long.

 

Also, CBS All Access is not network TV. There's no requirement for episodes to be a certain length to meet broadcast standards. For example, HBO has been prefacing Game of Thrones with recaps from the beginning and their episodes run anywhere from 50 to 81 minutes long. So in the case of on-demand streaming services, recaps only add to the cost of an episode because, unlike clip shows, they're not replacing new content, they're adding to it.

 

Sure, you can rewatch the entire series before watching the next episode. OR you can simply watch the Cliffs Notes version for half a minute, reviewing only what you need to, and save some time.  :D



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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:09 AM

Not entirely unexpected but could a Pike series be on the horizon? (Star Trek: Horizon?)

 

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