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[FHC]

I gave it to generations. Because, it was crap, that's why!

[JMW326]

I enjoyed Generations but thought STV was crap.

[Prometheus]

ST:V in my book....

[Gothneo]

I gave it to generations. Because, it was crap, that's why!

 

Lol! I was trying to decide if generations or ST V was crappier!

 

I went with Generations too. As flawed as V is, I think Generations was worse.

[Exelion]

The motion picture, bar seeing the refit in stardock and couple of tunes from the soundtrack, the film has no other redeeming qualities. If you removed all the needless ship shots and people staring at a view screen, you could quite happily cut that movie to about 30 minutes, it is a boring film.

 

Star Trek V has a lot of problems, most noticeably Shatner and his ego, but at least it attempts to have humour, action, and character growth, it may fail miserably at most but at least it tries. I actually quite like Generations, bar the terrible Christmas sequence, the fist fight and a couple of other minor things, I genuinely enjoyed the movie. Didn't really mind them killing Kirk either.

 

 

In order 2,8,6,4,7,11,12,3,9,5,10,1

[VulcanFanatic]

I just rewatched Star Trek the motion picture last night and i will say that it is a great science fiction movie! There may not have been a lot of action, but it was what Star Trek was about. I also came to like Star Trek V, because it also dealt with an issue in classic Star Trek fashion. It may have been short of funding for special effects, but i still think it worked. Generations was a great movie i thought, even the Christmas sequence. The newest movie, into darkness, is the worst movie in Star Trek history IMO. Yes, there is action, but its the worst storyline, using material from other movies, and using it very badly. You would think with 4 years since the prior movie they could have written a decent script, but apparently they were just trying to capitalize on established popular Star Trek themes but did an awful job doing it. I cant emphasize my disgust with this movie enough.

[Jay K]

The two reboot movies, they're just not my thing, but instead of picking one of them, I'm going to choose one of the prime-verse Trek films. I don't outright hate any of them, as there's parts to all of them I love. However, if there's one that I had to give up, and never see ever again, I'd pick The Motion Picture. Generations wouldn't be far behind though (killing off Kirk, ruining the chance of one more TOS film forever, and also, the possibility of a cameo here for future series). Also, after TNG's final scene (something that still gets the eyes watering), Generations felt so different, and rather cold.
'Cold' though, is why I would still choose TMP, though. The crew seemed stiff with each other, and that just irks me a bit. No doubting that in choosing that film, I'd be giving up one of the best pieces of sci-fi cinema ever - the ship in drydock. Also, Jerry Goldsmith's score, incredible. But aye, that'd be my choice if you excused me from including the films made since 2009.

[Gothneo]

1701, you certainly have an interesting perspective on each movie. 

 

I'll just say that I don't STITD is the worst of all the trek movies, but I think it shares elements of many other Trek movies. Most obviously its a remake of TWOK, but it also has elements of Insurrection, both feature a commander that has lost their values with respect to what the Federation and Starfleet is about. Likewise I see elements of TUC in ITD as well. To me it becomes a bit of an amalgam of TWOK, TUC and Insurrection. But I don't find it to be the worst.

 

Just out of curiosity, is the re a link to the poll or an article that talks about it?

[Gothneo]

I, and allot of other people are just silly then.

 

Oh, hey, since you didn't want to add any links relating to the original topic...

 

http://www.huffingto..._n_3755769.html

 

http://www.independe...es-8763317.html

 

http://www.theguardi...ess-voted-worst

 

http://badassdigest....trek-con-goers/

[Daysleeper]

JJTrek is the worst. Haven't even seen ID, because my time is too precious.

Just watched one of my favorite ST movies the other night, which indeed is Final Frontier. I really like it and enjoy it every time.

[Gothneo]

From the articles talking about the poll at the con... Last statement about ITD would be exactly what I was saying above!

 

The most controversial spots were the bottom two. A vocal contingent wanted Star Trek Into Darkness listed last, but a large group insisted this honor belonged to the dismal Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. I agree with how the list turned out; while The Final Frontier is almost literally unwatchable (I turned it off halfway through the last two times I tried on Blu), it's at the very least original. Star Trek Into Darkness is a bad movie made badly that is also bad Star Trek and, worst of all, a cheap rehash of better things.

 

Also... Glaxy Quest made #7 on the list

 

You may have noticed this list began at 13 and that there are, to date, only 12 Star Trek films. That's because Galaxy Quest made the cut. Not only did Galaxy Quest make the cut, it was listed at NUMBER TWO early in the proceedings. And what's more, Mike and Denise Okuda - the graphic designers who created the GUI on all TNG era ships - lobbied for it to be considered the best film in the franchise. These are people who started working on Trek with The Voyage Home! The film's inclusion was met with largely happy replies, although one guy seemed offended it was listed at all. Eventually the film dropped from the second spot to nestle right here, dividing the halves of the list, coming right between the movies people like and the rest of them.

[Gothneo]

Sure it is! Instead of focusing his "Wrath" at Kirk for stranding him on a planet, he focuses it at Admiral whazzy-whos-it becuase he thinks he killed his crew/buddies!

 

oh... that guy in your link doesn't know what he's talking about. He said "They didn't even rate Undiscovered country in the top 3 or 4", and actually, it was rated #3, right after 1st contact.

 

The 2009 reboot was rated #6, so the argument that they make that fans are just "Haters" isn't true either, though I actually do agree its not the worst Trek film out there!

 

The list is actually pretty well thought out... check out the last link that one has lots of play by play from someone actually part of it from the sounds of it.

[Gothneo]

If by side with them that its not the worst, then yes, I agree too!

 

But the top 4, which are TWOK, 1st Contact, TUC and Voyage Home, I think is probably correct.

 

The base bottom, which includes, TFF, Insurrection, Nemesis and Generations is probably pretty good too.  All the rest I would lump in the middle.

 

I'd honestly probably stick ITD around 8 or 9. But thats because its a remake

[Destructor!!!]

I did vow to myself that I'd stop weighing in on discussions of STID - I get too wrapped up in it, but I'll just drop in on this one to rate STID as the unquivocal worst Star Trek film.

It set up so many tantalising elements in the first 40 minutes, and then suddenly flipped the stupid switch. I felt like the rug had been pulled out from under me, and it turned my stomach a little. The "references" were more like parody, except they weren't funny. They were verbatim trot-outs without context or heart. It was appalling.

I'll stop here, I can feel another rant building, and nobody wants that.