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#1 Alteran195

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:50 PM

I imagine most of you have seen this by now, but figured we could have a thread.
https://youtu.be/yzpBS9cC83U

I really, really hope that this doesn't end up having a very similar story to Empire.

I'm mixed on the fact that there are seemingly walkers attacking a white planet, but we'll see.

Looking forward to seeing Rey, and possibly Kylo's training.

Also loving th A-Wing's and new Nebulon B looking frigates.

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 06:26 PM

I loved Force Awakens and am really liking what I'm seeing from this teaser. I can't wait.

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 09:10 PM

I don't get the name. Basically since RTOTJ likes ben the last Jedi... so he's supposed to bring order to the universe, but fails, so now he's the last Jedi again.?? 



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 09:52 PM

I assume it means there won't be any Jedi at all after this.

Luke said the Jedi have to end, which makes some people think he is going to train Rey to use the force in a middle ground of the dark and light.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:50 AM

Well... ultimately, there has to be a protagonist and antagonist for most films to make sense to people... so even if they don't call them Jedi... someone has to be the overall "good" guy and someone needs to be the "bad guy". Kinda sounds like that same light vs dark struggle Vader went through, ultimately giving in to more of his baser urges and making him darker. Based on the events of of TFA... its seems the Jedi were effectively wiped out... and the last of them was really Yoda as Luke was never really indoctrinated as a proper Jedi and the temple and order etc have all been wiped out.

Basically were down to you have force sensitive people, and some may use the force to advance their own ends, while others use it for the better welfare of others... so good guys and bad guys.

 

I remain optimistically skeptical about the Star Wars Franchise... they seem to put out technically good product... and this trailer is no exception... looks fantastic!  But they seem to feel the need to rehash previous plots or maybe I see this as weak attempt to reboot the concept of the force envisioned by Lucas.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 04:47 AM

My guess based upon hearing a lot of stuff from Star Wars fans is that Luke says "the Jedi must end" before he's convinced by Rey to train her. He's a broken man who needs convincing that there is still good to be done.

I've also been hearing a lot about grey Jedi. Jedi who are neither good nor evil but remain in the middle. I think that's what we're going to be seeing develop. Rey won't be as clean cut a devout Jedi and perhaps Ren won't be as clear cut a Sith.

I think we all know that this new trilogy will follow the same rhythm as the original trilogy so I'm going to expect a lot of the same pacing and tone from Empire Strikes Back in The Last Jedi.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 12:28 PM

The Sith failed. The Jedi failed. There needs to be balance, a school that teaches students to use the "light" and "dark" sides in harmony. 

 

Lucas originally called his knight Jedi Bendu Warriors. I've long felt a new discipline should simply be named "Bendu."



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 02:23 PM

Ok... now you have my attention MisterPL! 

 

If thats where they go with it then, ok... yeah... much better... but ultimately even when you take a path of moderation... radicals may come forth... basically thats how the Sith / Jedi thing seemed to work... most Sith Lords turned out to be Jedi that completely flipped... so an arc that sets up how "Bendu Knights" come to prevail and ultimately bring the balance needed sounds very intriguing!



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:27 AM

Yeah, that's extremism for you.

 

The prequels made it apparent that the Jedi never really defeated the Sith. They only drove them into hiding. According to the EU material, the Sith decimated their own numbers first, leading to the rule of two; a master and an apprentice.

 

The Jedi had far more numbers but became arrogant and blind to what was happening right under their noses. Neither Sith nor Jedi really deserved to survive. The prophecy was correct. There needs to be balance.

 

In my opinion, Luke is the Chosen One, the first Force-user to successfully use both sides, proving there could be balance. I was really hoping that we'd see a new school of Bendu in The Force Awakens but obviously something happened and he has no students. I guess that's about to change.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:44 PM

There does seem to be a "second film" feel to this, as with the prequels, and I wish they would just give up this structure but they won't.

 

The trailer ultimately raises more questions than it answers, which is a good thing. I just hope they keep the plot under wraps till the release, as I felt the lid wasn't all that tight in the months leading up to The Force Awakens. The action figures for characters that didn't make the final cut were kind of a neat thing to happen though. Everyone now knows who Constable Zuvio was.



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 03:15 AM

The general "buzz" out on the net seems to be pretty positive about the concept of doing away with the Jedi concept... but to keep things in balance that means the Sith juxtaposition needs to go too. What I think will be interesting is if they develop this third force sensitive order... but there will still be those that will embrace the Jedi/Sith orders... and perhaps those of the new order will have the right balance to defeat either.



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 07:00 AM

Kylo Ren isn't all bad, there's good in him Leia says so it stands to reason that Rey and Ren will both develop into something other than just good vs evil

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Posted Yesterday, 10:20 AM

There's a justifiable reason for this story structure though.

 

 

Act One: Get Character Up a Tree. Act Two: Throw Rocks. Act Three: Get Character Down

 

https://quoteinvesti.../09/05/up-tree/

 

Star Wars was not the first to observe & use this structure across its trilogies, and will not be the last, so I don't think it is really fair to criticize them as "copying themselves" just because Film #2 is "dark".

 

Now, it *is* fair to criticize when the structure is so similar as to include even details like "giant round superweapon must be deactivated/destroyed in final act of Film #1"...  And of course, remember, this structure needs to be followed generally within each film as well, but at the higher trilogy level it makes #2 seem like there are nothing but "rocks".

 

Anyway, not long now and we'll all know how this turned out!  Pretty excited over here!  I kind of expect Luke to get like 10 minutes of screen time, which would be disappointing -- but I'm hoping he gets a lot more or at least some real pivotal scenes.



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Posted Yesterday, 08:09 PM

All I want from this movie is a scene where they show Luke as a badass, showing how powerful he is.

The closer and closer we get to Thursday night, the more excited I get. I just can’t wait for The Last Jedi.

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Posted Today, 12:40 AM

Have to admit,I'm seeing it tomorrow and I just can't muster up any excitement for it this time around. It feels like a chore watching it,just wanna get it over and done with and just hope it's good. SOOOO not in the SW zone right now. Oh well,maybe it's so good I'll be all SW again,lol!






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