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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:56 PM

In order to streamline threads please discuss any film (not already in another active thread) from 2012 here.

Ill start with Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter. IMO this was a pretty good film. The story was well crafted and depsite never reading the novel, i could see the storytelling resemble that of a novel moreso than your typical summer movie. The action was great and they even sprinkled in a little real history. Basically everything I wanted out this film, I got. Most importantly Abraham Lincoln is now a super hero. If that doesnt make your day, I dont know what will.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

I haven't seen anything that's probably considered a "summer movie" yet, except for Rock of Ages, which was surprisingly GOOD. I'm not a Tom Cruise fan, by far, but he did an excellent job. Pair that with some GREAT 80's ROCK and Julianne Hough in short denim shorts...and it was, well, quite entertaining. biggrin.gif

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:35 AM

I must admit, I don't get the idea of a "summer movie". What is a summer movie - what makes one earn that title beyond having a theatrical release ... during the summer months?

Don't get me wrong - I have a vague idea that a summer movie is supposed to be a blockbuster consumed along with a huge amount of popcorn, and probably one that you attend with all your mates, but beyond that...

Surely a movie like Prometheus qualifies? The Dark Knight Rises?

The whole notion puzzles me - I'm inclined to think that it's more of an American tradition, perhaps?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:51 AM

The most hyped movies that are traditionally action orientated come out during the summer. However, I would extend it to really any film looking to score big. It seems in Hollywood if you truly want to be a success and be famous, you have to compete during these summer months.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE (TheHSBR @ Jun 29 2012, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The most hyped movies that are traditionally action orientated come out during the summer. However, I would extend it to really any film looking to score big. It seems in Hollywood if you truly want to be a success and be famous, you have to compete during these summer months.


Thanks for the explanation! I guess the opening weekend is also the one that counts, and also who attracts the most crowds during public holidays. In some respects I think it's this kind of fierce competition that hurts movies and encourages the tendency towards generic action flicks, rather than originality. I mean to say - how many different ways can you blow something up?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:25 AM

Agreed... However the logic is that there are more people (kids off from school) are available during the summer months to go see a flick. So even with competition you have a higher number of moviegoers that you can accept some bleedoff to other films.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 09:02 AM

Men in Black 3 was very good. It urned out to be a nice time travel story and I really liked the Apollo 11 tie in.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 03:00 PM

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Men in Black 3 was very good. It urned out to be a nice time travel story and I really liked the Apollo 11 tie in.


I agree. I must say I was positively surprised. I expected it to be only as good as part 2, but in fact I liked it a lot better. It was a little grittier, too, but still very funny. And the time travel plot worked pretty well.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:18 AM

I also saw Snow White and the Huntsman which was also a good movie. It had a a very LOTR feel to it. Chalize Theron was great in her role as the evil queen. Kriten Stewart however may be the worst actress in the history of cinema. I dont like Twilight but I went to see this and I cant even begin to say how bad she is. She has no idea how to properly express emotion in different points of the movie especially at the end where she gives what is supposed to be a rousing speech. Yelling words for no appreant reason and being quiet when motivation is needed. Just plain terrible. How this girl is now one of the most highly paid actresses in Hollywood Ill never know. Her acting stinks and she looks common. She makes Megan Fox look like the Oscar winner for Best Actress. Anyhoo, if you can basically ignore her, the rest of the cast actually make up for it.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 12:36 PM

QUOTE (Daysleeper @ Jun 30 2012, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree. I must say I was positively surprised. I expected it to be only as good as part 2, but in fact I liked it a lot better. It was a little grittier, too, but still very funny. And the time travel plot worked pretty well.



Yea, I noticed MIB3 was a little darker. It was a little off putting for me at first because MIB movies aren't supposed to be so serious. It was better than I expected it to be though.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 01:05 PM

The Avengers was a fun, roller coaster ride for me. I think this kicked things off for the summer and I haven't seen anything new since.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:06 AM

QUOTE (TheHSBR @ Jul 1 2012, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also saw Snow White and the Huntsman which was also a good movie. It had a a very LOTR feel to it. Chalize Theron was great in her role as the evil queen.


We saw it yesterday afternoon and rated it highly. A very enjoyable romp coming in at just under two hours. Charlize Theron is an awesome actress - and one that isn't afraid of going from "Hot" to "Not" for a role. I'm really looking forward to seeing her playing opposite Tom Hardy in the new Mad Max movie.


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Kriten Stewart however may be the worst actress in the history of cinema. I dont like Twilight but I went to see this and I cant even begin to say how bad she is. She has no idea how to properly express emotion in different points of the movie especially at the end where she gives what is supposed to be a rousing speech. Yelling words for no appreant reason and being quiet when motivation is needed. Just plain terrible. How this girl is now one of the most highly paid actresses in Hollywood Ill never know. Her acting stinks and she looks common.


I didn't think she was that bad! LOL! But here again is a case where an actress is chosen by how she looks. She's a pretty girl, but there are actresses out there who could fulfill the appearance requirement and are better actresses, but I think she was cast to attract teens and oldies tend to expect someone who can act. I think all the money went on attracting Theron and the coterie of actors who were morphed into the seven dwarves!! I don't imagine Bob Hoskins of Ray Winstone came cheap!!

I couldn't remember where I'd see Stewart before and I've seen Twilight - which probably tells you all you need to know LOL!


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She makes Megan Fox look like the Oscar winner for Best Actress.


Oh, that is very, very harsh! I'd save that one for someone really poor .... like ... um ...Sienna Miller! wink.gif


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Anyhoo, if you can basically ignore her, the rest of the cast actually make up for it.


Certainly do!! This has to be 100% better than the Julia Roberts effort - that looks really dumb.


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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:29 AM

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She's a pretty girl, but there are actresses out there who could fulfill the appearance requirement and are better actresses, but I think she was cast to attract teens and oldies tend to expect someone who can act.


Really? I think she looks very common. However she may be falling into the category of "media hot" where a common looking person becomes more attractive the more and more you see her in different projects. Its something I made up btw. I dont think if you lined her up before she became famous with other good looking people, she would be ranked at the bottom end of the spectrum.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:47 AM

Stewart's involvement with Snow White (coupled with the obvious bastardisation and "Twilightification" of fairytales - which seems to be a new trend in Hollywood) means I won't touch it with a barge pole. Theron is not a draw for me either, she has come across very flat to me in her last few roles.

I found Prometheus beautiful but poorly plotted - and terrible characterisation, to boot. The people, and the events happening to them made little sense. Theron was one-dimensional.

The Avengers was indeed quite a lot of fun. I went in expecting it to have that clinical, detached feel that action movies had aquired over the last decade. While that feel was there, the actors were allowed to shine through the CGI - and I really liked it. It could have done with a boss battle at the end, though.

MIB III was, as others have said, shockingly good! I really didn't expect the series to return to form after the cash-in that was MIB II. Good film, go see it - 'nuff said.

Abraham Lincoln Saves The Universe was ridiculous, badly written, and ridiculous again. It was also absurd. The only entertainment value I got from it was laughing my ass off at terrible story-telling and dialogue, such as the montage that Abe's Voiceover explains in detail. That's not how montages work. Then, after Abe tells us that he told his boss, Mr. Speed, that he was a vampire hunter, we see him and Mr. Speed standing on a boat, and Speed says the cheesiest, most retarded line written since Tommy Wiseau penned "The Room".

"You and me, Abe - Together, we can achieve ANYTHING."

I rest my case. If you didn't laugh out loud at the retarditude of that line, then I don't know - you need more cynicism in your life. Terrible film. I laughed a hell of a lot.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 01:20 AM

Just saw Ted. If you like Family Guy you'll like this! Plus theres a certain familiar Shakspearean actor thats near and dear to us that performs the role of Narrator.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:21 AM

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Really? I think she looks very common.


She reminds me a little bit of Lisa-Marie Presley. I don't know if by "common" you mean ordinary-looking or a bit rough. She's not an overblown beauty certainly, but she's pretty enough.


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However she may be falling into the category of "media hot" where a common looking person becomes more attractive the more and more you see her in different projects. Its something I made up btw. I dont think if you lined her up before she became famous with other good looking people, she would be ranked at the bottom end of the spectrum.


Ah, but there are an awful lot of men and women who could be put in the same category. What you call "media hot" has been around for a long time - and there is something to be said for "the girl-next-door" and "attainable" feel to people who aren't spectacularly hot. Doris Day is a famous example from the past.

The point of her being cast as Snow White is probably because she was in Twilight and as such became an aspirational actress for the young girls who like that kind of stuff. I think your right that fame does indeed read across projects and boosts someone's stock. Look at her opposite number, Robert Pattinson! The other thing is that being "the fairest of them all" isn't just about being beautiful on the outside, it's supposed to be about "purity of heart" too! Yep, I know - bunkum - but there you are, we don't watch movies like this because they reflect real life!! smile.gif


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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:30 AM

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Stewart's involvement with Snow White (coupled with the obvious bastardisation and "Twilightification" of fairytales - which seems to be a new trend in Hollywood) means I won't touch it with a barge pole. Theron is not a draw for me either, she has come across very flat to me in her last few roles.


You may have a point, but this movie is actually a lot better than that and her role in the movie doesn't eclipse all the goodness and action. I would say that if you enjoyed Willow and LOTR, then you would find much to enjoy. It is quite "Gothic" but it isn't too much like Twilight - there are no fey pretty boys in it. It's worth a shot.

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I found Prometheus beautiful but poorly plotted - and terrible characterisation, to boot. The people, and the events happening to them made little sense. Theron was one-dimensional.


I checked my brain in at the door and enjoyed it anyway. I think she was supposed to be cold and one-dimensional. I have always thought the Alien franchise was more about space-gothic than serious sci-fi anyway. The same with Avatar.

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The Avengers was indeed quite a lot of fun. I went in expecting it to have that clinical, detached feel that action movies had aquired over the last decade. While that feel was there, the actors were allowed to shine through the CGI - and I really liked it. It could have done with a boss battle at the end, though.


Now I wish I'd seen this. A female friend who is an uber-geek has been singing its praises.


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Abraham Lincoln Saves The Universe was ridiculous, badly written, and ridiculous again. It was also absurd. The only entertainment value I got from it was laughing my ass off at terrible story-telling and dialogue, such as the montage that Abe's Voiceover explains in detail. That's not how montages work. Then, after Abe tells us that he told his boss, Mr. Speed, that he was a vampire hunter, we see him and Mr. Speed standing on a boat, and Speed says the cheesiest, most retarded line written since Tommy Wiseau penned "The Room".


The title of this was enough to put me off - I wouldn't even go see it when we had around 6,000,000 Odeon loyalty points and all that was on were wall-to-wall romcoms and Pixar.

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"You and me, Abe - Together, we can achieve ANYTHING."

I rest my case. If you didn't laugh out loud at the retarditude of that line, then I don't know - you need more cynicism in your life. Terrible film. I laughed a hell of a lot.


I think you invented a new word!! ;) At least you enjoyed it for something.


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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:54 AM

If you go into Lincoln thinkings its a farse youll certainly find stuff to justify that. Im sure I could do the same for most movies that win awards. If you go in with an open mind I think youll be pleasantly surprised by it. If you know Lincolns actual history Youll find a lot of "easter eggs" thrown about where the writers took actual events that were known but not well known and added a little vampire twist to it. I was also shocked that Ebert gave it 3 stars before I went to go see it which puts it in the same ranking as many of the other films that have been released this summer.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:41 PM

I went in with an open mind - I'm not American, so I don't labour under the cult of personality that is built up in the history class in America (nothing wrong with that), and I also am not very familiar with the history. Maybe if I was, the easter egginess of it would have bouyed me up a bit. Without that angle, it's a pile of crap.

I just think it was approached in a bizarre way. When you have an idea as crazy and audacious as this, playing it straight is a very risky thing to do, and when you clearly don't *really* give a toss about the integrity or believability of the story, playing it straight is a retarded thing to do. It should have been an action comedy - that could have made it more palatable.

As it is, it shoehorns in some raggedly-defined offcuts from the history books between utterly mental causally-suspect fight sequences, and runs the whole lot through a classroom full of pre-schoolers writing the dialogue and plotting.

I say "causally suspect" in relation to the source of Abe's vampire slaying prowess... he gains his strength from... truth? Really?

It was silly from start to finish, from inception to production - failing to show any of the respect that the indisputably great man it was based on deserved.

I went in thinking it had the potential to be good, but you hit the nail on the head with "farce".

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:30 PM

Is gaining power from "truth" any more or less silly than say the sun, a magic ring, or a radioactive spider? Is it that much of a stretch of the imagination to think that historical figures might have had secret lives? I think by you starting at the point that the premise is "crazy and audacious" you are coming into the film with less than an open mind.




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