QUOTE (The_Donster @ Feb 13 2009, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, I have to ask, how many times do we have to argue about the same thing over and over? I think that's what I'm frustrated at more than anything. I seem to remember the same argument when Adam Unger posted in the old AA forum about why they did head/body swaps and that was when AA had the license directly. Now we're still arguing the same point 3 years later, only now it's DST who's getting the brunt of the blow.
Well, that's easy to answer isn't it? Maybe some of us are still finding the same thing annoying three years later, and in the three years, it seems that whichever toy company we're talking about still hasn't found a better way of producing the range of product that the collector desires without undercutting the quality of the product that the collector also requires.
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So when you ask yourself why doesn't DST listen to the Trek fans as much as they do the Minimate fans, I think all you have to do is look in the mirror. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but if the shoe fits, wear it. Because in the end, it's the same old thing, grown people arguing about toys. Which is sad, since this is supposed to be about something that brings us joy. That's why I agree with the sentiment, let your wallet do your talking for you.
Well, I tried, but my husband had other ideas. I mean, look, I'm only back here because of the recent delivery which brought DST back into my stream of consciousness (that is, apart from the times I have dolly carnage to clear up) and there were not only all the old problems cropping up, but a new one with the glue in the packaging. I haven't visited this forum in ages, but when I did, yesterday, I found this thread and I read your post, and I thought you were being harsh on other members, and I well remember how these threads used to head south over at AA for precisely the same reason, and that is members complaining about members complaining, and if you want to question the maturity of anybody who starts a thread wanting to express some honest opinions about the company and maybe checking out who else feels the same way, then I have to point the finger at those who complain about people expressing an opinion as being even less grown up. It's not a crime to be disenchanted with a product, especially when it used to be absolutely top-notch and cutting edge. Are we seriously supposed to kiss DST's collective ass for undercutting their already compromised quality with figures that aren't even attractive, let alone of merchantable quality? because that's what we're talking about: toys that would never stand up to being played with by your average kid, and collectables that don't stay looking good. I don't see a conflict here. I mean, this is a toy forum right? So, as long as people are discussing toys, I really don't see what your beef is. If people need somewhere to vent, or maybe even check out if they're the only one having problems with a product, I don't see why that is such a negative thing. In fact, in DST's case it ought not to be a negative because, very often, when people vote with their money and withdraw from buying a problem, companies may not get to hear exactly why, and if they don;t know what's amiss, how can the improve?
The disappointment is that DST has always acted like it's doing the collector big favours and have not, in three years, sought to rectify the quality issues that earnest and sincere collectors have brought to public notice time and time again.
QUOTE (FHC @ Feb 13 2009, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If nothing else it's nice to see Jules come back for a visit. Although, I would have thought that an English teacher in training would use a better word in the second paragraph, like for example, complain. 
Thanks for the welcome FHC!
Of course, being a trainee English teacher, I am a veritable thesaurus, however, I was quoting Donster's choice of describing the way people express their concerns right back at him!
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AS long as no one starts making this a personal thing, and it stays about the toys, I have no problem with the thread here. People start taking it personal, and.... 
Nope, not making it personal, but as you know, once one person starts using words like "bitching" and calling into question the maturity of others, then it's a one-way ride south.
QUOTE (Gothneo @ Feb 13 2009, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Juels! I was just thinking the other day about a number of members that I had not seen post in awhile, which included you. It's good to see you post.
Hey! It's lovely to be remembered!
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As for having the same old arguments (as Donster points out), I've come to the conclusion that it's inevitable on such collector forums.
Ain't that the truth! I just find it surprising that people are still surprised that it happens.
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The reason is that people just aren't always going to agree. I certainly don't agree with everything people have said, some of the points that are made out do echo a basic sentiment. e.g. I don't mind reused body parts in my toy lines. I know it's a fact that all lines use them at some point or another to cost out figures, however, too much reuse will hurt a line. Points to this effect I've made in other threads include, 1. we've gotten 7 different Women in the TNG era, but they are all made with 2 basic body sizes, 2. The TNG Data Mold is flawed. It should have been broken and never used after that initial wave, yet they continue to make figures based on it. 3. DST does have quality issues. Heck My BSG starbuck figures arm just snapped off last night for no reason!
With the notable exception of Uhura, female figures are somewhat disappointing since they always look as though they were made as an afterthought.
I'm into NuBSG in the worst way (like it better than Star Trek these days), but I haven't got into collecting the toys because the likenesses are well off. Not only that, but since when did the gloriously proportioned Katee Sackhoff end up being the same size as Sharon ~ 'cos that's what it looks like!
