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#81 Alex

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 08:29 PM

That's massively disappointing they arent doing the TNG Warbird...

Agreed! My Playmates D'deridex–class Warbird has had electrical issues for years, mostly because I ran it into the ground as a kid. My Playmates Romulan from TOS is in better condition, but I definitely wouldn't mind that ship getting the DST treatment at some point, I'd just prefer it to not be their second alien ship. My 1701–D and 1701–E need something to go up against, so I'd hope that we might at least see the Valdore–class warbird from "Nemesis" if we're not going to get a D'deridex–class warbird from TNG. (Okay, I'd actually prefer the Valdore–class since it would look awesome next to a Klingon BoP, but that doesn't mean I don't want a D'deridex–class ship too.) I don't think the D'deridex–class ship was ever properly shown in scale during TNG anyway,  so even if the toy was about the same size as the Enterprise–D, it wouldn't look too different from what we saw on screen. (Despite being massively larger than the "D," the D'deridex–class always looked like it was roughly the same size as the Enterprise–D in the show.)

 

So based off some things I've read both here, and in the Q&As, it's not the Warbird, and it's not another Klingon ship.

Borg it is, then?

Nah, every sane guess has been debunked so we all know it's the Kazon Torpedo. :P

 

A while back, somebody from DST made a remark about being open to doing a Borg ship but having to work out the finer details of how to make it more than just a black plastic box for $70.

I think that's probably the reason why the Borg Cube wasn't a no–brainer after the BoP. I would suggest perhaps shoving a Borg Sphere inside of the Borg Cube, or even taking a cue from Voyager and having the Borg Cube break down into smaller Borg Cubes, one of which could house the sphere if DST wanted to include it. (Think of Eight 6x6" cubes that form a 12x12x12" ship when connected. It wouldn't be as long as most of DST's offerings, but it would still take up a decent amount of space.) I'd love to see a Borg Cube, but I can definitely understand how making it more than a plastic box would be a challenge. On the bright side, it would probably be the easiest ship for DST to design packaging for.



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Posted 17 December 2014 - 07:19 PM

"The C is one we’re considering based on the overall interest in the ship"

 

SOOOOOOOooooooo NCC-1701-C??

 

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 08:00 PM

Wow....4 whole questions

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 09:20 PM

"The C is one we’re considering based on the overall interest in the ship"

 

SOOOOOOOooooooo NCC-1701-C??

 

http://www.artasylum...-265-star-trek/

You'd think the C would be higher on the list since it seems every AskDST has someone asking for it...



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Posted 18 December 2014 - 04:02 AM

Wow, with the C, the cycle is about to complete.

2 ships a year,wonder what wud be the other?

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 07:16 AM

NCC-1701-JJ? Then we would have ALL the Enterprises :P



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 10:56 AM

NCC-1701-JJ? Then we would have ALL the Enterprises :P

 

Something DSTZach said in another thread makes me think that the JJprise is coming.  

 

(http://www.trektoy.c...ic=5436&p=78359)

 

I honestly want to see the reactions to them. I think there will be shock and surprise, maybe even anger, to one of them. The other I think everybody will expect and love.



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 12:12 PM

So I guess everyone conveniently forgot that Zack said they don't have the rights to do any new movie stuff? I wish they WOULD do a new movie Enterprise,I like the ship,but I guess the ones I already have will have to do.

 

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 12:18 PM

So I guess everyone conveniently forgot that Zack said they don't have the rights to do any new movie stuff? I wish they WOULD do a new movie Enterprise,I like the ship,but I guess the ones I already have will have to do.

 

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He said that long, long ago, unless it was reiterated recently.  That's precisely why it would fit the description of "shock and surprise".  I can't think of any other ships that would provoke shock, surprise, and anger...can you?

 

Anyway, let's be honest here...DST may not have the rights today, but I suppose if they were smart they could start doing secret work on it anyway so that in the generally standard 10 years between announcement and release of DST product perhaps they could actually secure the rights by the time it's finally in the factories...  =p



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 12:49 PM

 
Anyway, let's be honest here...DST may not have the rights today, but I suppose if they were smart they could start doing secret work on it anyway so that in the generally standard 10 years between announcement and release of DST product perhaps they could actually secure the rights by the time it's finally in the factories...  =p


How is that smart on their part, that is a waste of time and tooling costs, which are pretty expensive, for a product that they may never get the rights too. That is just a waste of resources.

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 01:21 PM

How is that smart on their part, that is a waste of time and tooling costs, which are pretty expensive, for a product that they may never get the rights too. That is just a waste of resources.

 

I was being sarcastic in order to make a joke about how long it takes DST to get something made.  =p



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 01:35 PM

Regards the 'maybe even anger' remark, I can only think of three possibilities:

1 - an Original Series Romulan Bird of Prey. There's so many other ships which are loved and more deserving of a model, that this would feel like a bad joke. I wouldn't be angry, but definitely a bit frustrated.

 

2 - a Borg cube. I've seen some people (and I'm of the same opinion) say that whilst they love the Borg, they don't want their ships. It wouldn't make me angry in the slightest, though. In fact, if it looked really good, had a nice dimensional depth to it, and glowed green here and there, I might be temtped, but it'd have to be absolutely stunning for me to even consider it.

 

3 - an Original Series Defiant. Basically, a glow-in-the-dark Constitution class. Again, this wouldn't anger me, as I could see the novelty of doing this. I'd feel it would show some major dishonesty on DST's part stating that both are 'new' ships though.

 

My bet as for the next two then, taking into previous statements (including the anger comment), is thus:

U.S.S. Reliant.
Borg Cube.

 

 

If that's the case, then I really hope the 2016 ships will include the DS9 Defiant, and either the K't'inga, Romulan Warbird, Vor'cha or Enterprise-C. All of these ships would be given a good home with me. :)



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 02:21 PM

Oh TOTALLY Whirly! Shock,surprise,anger,disappointment,denial,recovery,and eventually maybe even.....acceptance? LOL! I KNOW how hated this ship is,but I don't care as I would love for DST to make a nice one with lights and sounds as the only ones I have with lights or sounds or both,are the Playmates one and Hallmark one.
 
I hope the next one is something I want,and somewhere along the line I will always want an Enterprise J.........and of course,the NSEA Protector. lol! And some Dr.Who Select would be neat too,thanks.

As for 2016 and the anniversary....I hope they have something really special planned for that. Even Hallmark has stuff planned already,lol.
 
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Posted 19 December 2014 - 11:40 PM

Is anyone really clamoring for a Borg Cube or TOS Romulan BOP?  I mean as JayK pointed out there are so many more alien ships that deserve some attention.  The Jem'Hadar attack ship for example.



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Posted 21 December 2014 - 12:48 PM

Is anyone really clamoring for a Borg Cube or TOS Romulan BOP?  I mean as JayK pointed out there are so many more alien ships that deserve some attention.  The Jem'Hadar attack ship for example.

I know Im not.  Id buy the Borg cube but not the BOP.



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Posted 21 December 2014 - 01:15 PM

The Romulan BoP has been done by playmates, and given how basic of a design it is it was a good representation of it.

Borg ships are just geometric shapes and boring, sure some glowing and cool sculpting could make it better but it's still just a shape.

Neither of these are things I'd be super excited for, I don't even know if I'd buy them. Especially when there's other alien ships that deserve to be made, like the TNG Warbird, Dominion Attack ship, even Cardassian ships are more interesting.

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Posted 24 December 2014 - 05:21 AM

You'd think the C would be higher on the list since it seems every AskDST has someone asking for it...

I do think it should be higher on DST's list, but I think there are a couple of very specific reasons why it isn't. First, prior to the release of the Enterprise–B and subsequent announcement of the updated Enterprise–A, there wasn't as much clammoring for the Enterprise–C. The "C" is notable much in the same way that the "B" is notable, in that it's a ship named "Enterprise" that was given some very specific screen time. Before the "B" was released and the new "A" went up for pre–order, their just weren't as many people placing a priority on the "C." To be fair, I've been clammoring for the "C" for quite some time, occasionally alternating it out for "Voyager" depending on what it looked like DST might have in the works, but now that it's the only Enterprise that's "missing," a lot more people are putting it higher up on their lists where I've had it for quite some time. The second reason it's probably not the obvious frontrunner right now ties into the first, and that's the fact that retailers might not be as big on the "C" as the fans are. The "B" was an easier sell because it was seen in a movie, but even then I wouldn't say that it was DST's easiest sell, (I'm guessing that the "E" was a bit easier to pitch to retailers,) so getting retailers on board with the "C" might take a bit more work than we realize. Of course, as the only missing ship named "Enterprise," it could be an easier sell than it was in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if the "C" is on the short–list after the next two ships.

 

He said that long, long ago, unless it was reiterated recently.  That's precisely why it would fit the description of "shock and surprise".  I can't think of any other ships that would provoke shock, surprise, and anger...can you?

Whirlygig, it's been reiterated on AskDST several times recently, so I'd say that the previous comments are still in effect. (It's possible that things have changed but an NDA/NCA is requiring DST to simply deny that they have a JJ–verse license until there's a product to show or something, but we have nothing to indicate that this would be the case.) As far as "shock and surprise" go, I can think of a few ships that would definitely fit the bill, and I could see some of them even provoking anger as well among at least some fans. Here are a few possibilities that would fit the bill for triggering those emotions without requiring a JJ–verse license.

 

Enterprise NX–01: DST supposedly misplaced the tooling for this, and the last time they spoke about it, the word was that it was the only ship DST didn't think they'd ever reissue unless they somehow managed to locate the tooling. A sudden announcement of this would definitely cause "shock and surprise," but more importantly, because of the inevitable controversy that comes with the Enterprise series itself, I could definitely see the NX–01 causing anger among some fans, especially those who really loathed most or all of ENT. An NX–02 Columbia variant would likely draw similar reactions, but I couldn't see DST releasing it without also announcing plans for an NX–01 alongside it.

 

TOS Romulan Bird–of–Prey: As much as I want DST to take a stab at this, (not everyone has the Playmate's version, and I'd personally like to see a DST version,) there seems to be a lot of hate for this ship lately, and while I think it might provoke anger, I admit that I don't think it'd be big in the "shock and surprise" department simply because it's another TOS ship, and DST has been known for doing a lot of TOS ships. The "shock and surprise" wouldn't be at the ship so much as it would at this Romulan ship being chosen of a Valdore or D'deridex–class Warbird, which brings me too...

 

Valdore or D'deridex–class Romulan Warbird, and/or Scimitar: The D'deridex–class doesn't seem too out of place aside from the fact that DST supposedly doesn't want to release it because of how out of scale it'd be with the Enterprise–D. Shock and surprise would definitely be in play here, but I don't think it'd draw too much anger. The Valdore–class ship from Nemesis would not only draw shock and surprise, (and empty my wallet rather quickly,) but I could see a few people being angry about it by virtue of it being a ship that was only seen in Nemesis. Likewise, the Scimitar could draw shock and surprise for the same reasons as the Valdore, and there's a good chance that if one of those two ships is released, some people are going to be angry that it wasn't the other one.

 

U.S.S. Prometheus: Shock and surprise? Definitely, especially if this somehow makes it out of DST's spacedock before a toy of Voyager. Multi–vector assault mode capabilities a la saucer separation on DST's "D" would definitely add to the shock and surprise, and this ship would separate me from my money even more easily than the aforementioned Valdore–class Warbird. However, I could also see this ship drawing anger from some fans, but for different reasons depending on whose angry about it. The people waiting for the Enterprise–C might be angry that this was released first, while some Voyager fans would likely be angry that this ship saw a release before Voyager. People who dislike Andy Dick would likely have their own complaints about this ship, so I think it could easily draw all of the aforementioned reactions, especially since it's not a really obvious choice for DST's next ship. Of course, I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat, and if I can have a ship with voice clips of Alan Ruck as Captain Harriman, I see no issue with a ship that has voice clips of Andy Dick as the EMH Mk. II, and would fully embrace the release of said ship.

 

U.S.S. Equinox/Rhode Island: See above, while Andy Dick wouldn't be a factor, virtually everything that was mentioned about the Prometheus would apply to either of these Nova–class ships, including separating my money from my wallet. ;)

 

U.S.S. Saratoga: This Miranda–class ship might not seem like an odd choice, especially if it were released alongside a U.S.S. Reliant from TWOK, but imagine how people would react if we saw this not only long before the Reliant, but before DS9's Defiant? I could definitely see some people being angry about that, and this would certainly fit in the "shock and surprise" category if the Reliant was coming a year or two after and not alongside of it.

 

U.S.S. Grissom: Would anyone see this coming? If not, I think it'd fulfill the "shock and surprise" category. I could also see it filling the "anger" category for some people because it would basically be the last ship from The Search for Spock that isn't represented by DST in toy form yet, and we'd be getting it before some more well–known ships. Granted, I'd grab this right away since I have the rest of DST's STIII ships either in my posession or pre–ordered, but I could see some people not liking this as much as I would, and I can definitely see people being even more angry if a Pegasus–variant didn't accompany the release of this ship.

 

U.S.S. Stargazer: I don't think I'd see this coming anytime soon, so shock and surprise would certainly be in play, and I could easily see some people being angry that this was released before the "C" or an alien ship from TNG, so I might as well include it as a possibility.

 

Whale Probe: This would easily cause, shock, surprise, and even anger. Not only is it an unlikely choice for an alien ship, it's a glorified cylinder as far as design goes, and I could see people being angry about that. Oddly enough, I don't feel that the Borg Cube would be treated the same way by virtue of being a Borg–related ship, and by virtue of potentially being more than just a hollow plastic cube depending on what DST decides to do with it. Likewise, DST has said they want to do a Borg Cube if they can make it more than a hollow plastic cube, but they haven't said anything about the Whale Probe from TVH, so this would definitely be a surprise.

 

I don't think the TOS Defiant would fit the bill either. While I'd consider it a new ship, DST doesn't seem to count most variants as "new" releases, and this would be a pretty simple variant. I also don't think it'd be shocking or surprising, (it's just another constitution–class ship, and DST has shown that they can crank variants of that design out with relative ease,) and I couldn't see people being angry about this given that a glow–in–the–dark paint scheme could help distinguish it from the Enterprise. Ditto for other constitution–class variants such as a possible U.S.S. Constellation.

 

Finally, I should sum this up by stating that once you get past the first three possibilities I've mentioned, you're pretty much looking at ships that are slightly less of a longshot than the JJ–prise, but that could hypothetically be in DST's plans some how. I doubt we'll see something like the U.S.S. Prometheus soon, but I know that if we did, I'd definitely be shocked and surprised, but definitely not angry. :)



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Posted 24 December 2014 - 07:47 AM

I for one would love a Prometheus.  Its the one of the only dark horse ships that I would genuinley get excited about.



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Posted 24 December 2014 - 01:23 PM

Could you imagine a DST Prometheus with magnetic multi vector separation!!??

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Posted 24 December 2014 - 01:53 PM

I would rather picture a studio miniature faithful USS Defiant.




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