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#101 slayerone76

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 09:34 PM

So, 79.2 million according to TrekMovie.com. Way to go Trek!

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 10:35 PM

It is awesome! I went and saw it a second time on Sunday at 3:30 and I couldn't believe the theater was almost full! So I wondered if it might not do better then they were first projecting.

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:43 AM

QUOTE (slayerone76 @ May 11 2009, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, 79.2 million according to TrekMovie.com. Way to go Trek!

The best opening week for a Star Trek movie ever, and it pulled in more in one weekend than most of the other movies did in their entire run. Matter of fact, it made more in one weekend than most of the other movies combined.

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 11:47 AM

The Phoenix rises from the ashes!

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE (sallah @ May 9 2009, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll be seeing it for a third time today. I have minor problems with it, but that's what they are- minor. I overall loved it and can't wait to see it again.

I don't think this is spoilery, but if you haven't seen it, you may want to skip this-

I got chills at the scene where the Enterprise rises out of the debris cloud around Saturn. I honestly can't remember the last time a movie really, REALLY gave me chills.

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AMEN to that! That gave me chills too. And the VERY end where you see the Enterprise and the classic series "chimes" start and spock start narrarating, whew....Loved it. I am going to see if for a third time in like an hour.

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:37 PM

Hey all,

Well I've just got in from watching it for a second time and I have to admit, it was better 2nd time around. Knowing the story meant I could sit back and relax and take in everything I may have missed first time while concentrating on the story.

I will say though that I took one of my mates along this time. He's a casual Star Trek fan so has seen most of TOS, TNG, DS9 and the movies, but I did find myself explaining quite a bit on the way home such as things that were in the Countdown comic etc. He really enjoyed it though. He originally thought the plot was a little thin until I explained the points. He changed his mind after that.

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (Gothneo @ May 12 2009, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Phoenix rises from the ashes!

3 years or so ago i remember reading posts about Star Trek being dead and buried, what a change 3 years can make.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:57 AM

QUOTE (Will Riker @ Apr 21 2009, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, and if Jules still visits these boards, here's a little something for you - Clarkson, Hammond and May were also at the premiere last night as well. They were all mobbed on the way out - Hammond really is quite small lol.


I hope you gave Jeremy's endearing bald patch a rub for me; gave James a kiss, and picked the Hamster up for me as a freebeee!

No Stig though? Maybe he was the guy driving Spock's bonkers new ship!! tongue.gif

I caught a preview here in Bath. I thought it was actually rather good. I gave it 8/10.

That is in terms of it being an action flick and an entertaining film. There was one great "Kirk moment" and the new Bones is a triumph!

However, if you're looking for deep meanings and something philosophical to ponder upon ~ you'll be sorely disappointed because it is relatively shallow. I'd rank it around the middle of all the Star Trek movies.

I am also disappointed ~ but not surprised ~ that the only female character of note had very little to do. We get to hear that Uhura is fluent in "all 3 dialects" of Romulan, and yet we never see her put that knowledge to good use, which is odd since the villain is Romulan and it takes place before BOT as per the old timeline.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:27 PM

Something interesting that I noticed with my second viewing of the movie. Kids everywhere tons of kids! I don't think I seen this many kids seeing any of the TNG movies combined. It's totally awesome to see them out there. Star Trek has gotten the shot in the arm it needed. smile.gif

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:13 PM

QUOTE (JulesLuvsShinzon @ May 13 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am also disappointed ~ but not surprised ~ that the only female character of note had very little to do. We get to hear that Uhura is fluent in "all 3 dialects" of Romulan, and yet we never see her put that knowledge to good use, which is odd since the villain is Romulan and it takes place before BOT as per the old timeline.


I was disappointed too. I think Saldana wasn't the right choice for Uhura either. I feel she was there for T&A factor more than anything else. i could probably count on one hand the meaningful lines Uhura had in this film ... in my opinion.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:20 PM

Saw it for the second time yesterday. Enjoyed it even more this time round. Love love love Karl Urban as McCoy. Bones was always my favourite TOS Character and thought that Urban did remarkably well to capture DeForest Kelly as well as make the character his own. The first sceen in the shuttle between Kirk and McCoy was brilliant. May have to see it a third time now.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE (JulesLuvsShinzon @ May 13 2009, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, if you're looking for deep meanings and something philosophical to ponder upon ~ you'll be sorely disappointed because it is relatively shallow. I'd rank it around the middle of all the Star Trek movies.



Jules, we are kindred spirits in that thought.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:12 PM

I saw it for the second time and the light reflections really became annoying. Every frame it seemed had one and I fund them all to be pointless. The first time I was so caught up in the story that I missed most of them. However the second time it actually became unbearable towards the end of the film. If your style as a director is to distract the audience with nonsense it seems like your not much of a director.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:03 AM

Saw it for a 4th time Yesterday, all in IMAX!!!!

As for the issue of giving the viewer something deep to think about, there was stuff about destiny, and overcoming diffrences in there, but I think they intentionally designed this movie to be an emotional event, with thrills and chills and character moments, in order to get everyone familiar with this new/old universe again, and end the film on a feel good note. The deep thinking stuff I'm sure they saved for the sequel.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 02:54 AM

QUOTE (JulesLuvsShinzon @ May 13 2009, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, if you're looking for deep meanings and something philosophical to ponder upon ~ you'll be sorely disappointed because it is relatively shallow.


If you're looking for deep meanings and something philosophical to ponder upon, go and watch the TNG DVDs over and over. This new movie is what Star Trek was meant to be!

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 03:05 AM

We'll see what they really do. I have my doubts about how deep the next two movies will actually be. I know they added a third writer to the team for the next one. We'll see how much influence he has on the script. Although I think they brought in new blood to work on character development and not to create a more meaningful story. Orci and Kurtzman aren't exactly known for being deep thinkers. They know how to weave a cool story, but the deep stuff isn't exactly their forte.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 04:12 AM

QUOTE (knightone @ May 14 2009, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Orci and Kurtzman aren't exactly known for being deep thinkers. They know how to weave a cool story, but the deep stuff isn't exactly their forte.


And I think that's fine. It seems to be what sells... besides I personally think the philosophy of Star Trek translates better to TV, when I think about some of the best Star Trek Episodes quite a number have nary a starship, phaser or much tech of any-kind involved for much of the show...

For example, City on the Edge of forever, Darmok, The inner Light, Past Tense and others.

There are, of course, many great episodes with plenty of of tech, but these days I don't think the theater going audience would show up for that style of show.

Just look at what was done to "The day the Earth stood still", a good sci-fi movie with a pretty good message, but they just wern't able to remake it in a way that was any better, or really translated to resonate with movie goers today. (ignoring that it was just poorly directed for a moment!)


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Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:37 AM

QUOTE (Gothneo @ May 14 2009, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jules, we are kindred spirits in that thought.


Put me down as a third. In the glitz factor it was #1 but for substance, cohesiveness and merit it rated right above Star Trek V.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (Gothneo @ May 14 2009, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I think that's fine. It seems to be what sells... besides I personally think the philosophy of Star Trek translates better to TV, when I think about some of the best Star Trek Episodes quite a number have nary a starship, phaser or much tech of any-kind involved for much of the show...

For example, City on the Edge of forever, Darmok, The inner Light, Past Tense and others.

There are, of course, many great episodes with plenty of of tech, but these days I don't think the theater going audience would show up for that style of show.

Just look at what was done to "The day the Earth stood still", a good sci-fi movie with a pretty good message, but they just wern't able to remake it in a way that was any better, or really translated to resonate with movie goers today. (ignoring that it was just poorly directed for a moment!)


Exactly my point about "The dumbing down of Star Trek" and entertainment in general needing to be as thought provoking as Pokemon.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 11:54 AM

I have seen it twice and it was even better the second time. This movie didn't destroy canon like I thought it might because it created an alternate timeline. In fact this movie's story could not have been without the original timeline. None of that matters anyways. Enterprise destroyed canon. This was Star Trek. This had heart, it had emotion, humor, great acting and directing. TOS did not have moral issues at the center of every episodes-Shore Leave is one of my favorites and it was just an adventure. The Trouble w/ Tribbles was comedic and popular, no weighty issues there. This move had great character interaction and this felt like my Star Trek. I loved seeing my favorite Trek characters in action again. Everyone's view of Trek is different. What one person wants to see in a movie is different then someone else. This movie didn't dumb down anything at all. There was nothing to dumb down. Great, great movie.




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